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-----Original
Message-----
From: Reynolds, Peter [
mailto:Peter.Reynolds@bowneglobal.ie]
Sent:
26 July 2004 09:15
To: Andrzej Zydron
Cc:
trans-ws@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [trans-ws] Groups - Tran- WS TC
meeting modified
Andrzej,
Thanks for sending this.
I
suspect that there will still be issues with the copywright statement
below.
IF TC members could look at it we can review it at our
September
meetings.
Thanks,
Peter.
-----Original
Message-----
From: Andrzej Zydron [
mailto:azydron@xml-intl.com]
Sent: 23
July 2004 22:40
Cc: trans-ws@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [trans-ws]
Groups - Tran- WS TC meeting modified
Hi Peter,
Thanks for the
minutes. I can confirm that there are no IP issues from
XML Inlt regarding
the GILT Metrics spec. The work undertaken by XML
Intl regarding GILT Metrics
has all been done under the terms of the
Lisa OSCAR group and XML Intl has
freely donated all the work which is
covered by the Lisa OSCAR copyright
notice which is at the head of the
GILT Metrics document.
Non of the
contents of the GILT Metrics spec infringes any copyright or
IP of any of XML
Intl's customers (I am Technical and Research Director
of XML Intl).
XML
Intl has kept its customers fully informed of its work in the
standards
field.
Please find attached the latest copy of the GILT Metrics Volume
spec.
GILT Metrics is still evolving as I get feedback from the community.
The
current thinking is that GILT Metrics (GMX) will be a
tripartite
specification covering Volume (GMX-V), Complexity (GMX-C) and
Quality
(GMX-Q).
I attach the standard Lisa copyright which is also
located at the head
of the draft spec
document:
---------------------------
This document and
translations of it may be copied and furnished to
others, and derivative
works that comment on or otherwise explain it or
assist in its implementation
may be prepared, copied, published and
distributed, in whole or in part,
without restriction of any kind,
provided that the above copyright notice and
this paragraph are included
on all such copies and derivative
works.
However, this document itself may not be modified in any way, such as
by
removing the copyright notice or references to LISA.
The limited
permissions granted above are perpetual and will not be
revoked by LISA or
its successors or assigns.
----------------------------
As you can
see there are no IP or copyright problems with OSCAR
standards. In addition
Lisa also has a mutual recognition agreement with
OSCAR.
Best
Regards,
AZ
peter.reynolds@bowneglobal.ie wrote:
>
Tran- WS TC meeting has been modified by Peter
Reynolds
(peter.reynolds@bowneglobal.ie).
>
> Date:
Thursday, 22 July 2004
> Time: 11:00am - 12:00pm Eastern
Time
>
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to confirm
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meeting you will
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> a. Asked to speak your name followed by the
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starts the meeting.
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be:
> a. Asked to enter the Meeting Password 058633 b. Asked to speak
your
> name followed by the # key
>
> Agenda:
> 1/ Roll
call
>
> 2/ Minutes of last meeting
>
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/trans-ws/event.php?event_>
id=5575&
>
> 3/ Metrics
> Metrics -
>
http://www.lisa.org/archive_domain/newsletters/2004/2.3/zydron.html>
GILTMetrics.zip is attached to
>
http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/trans-ws/200407/msg00005.html>
>
4/ Review of specification
>
http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/trans-ws/200407/msg00010.html>
The following are the changes since 18 June:
> - Starting adding
some basic scenarios
> - Job identifier blue box was
re-drafted.
> - Suggested change for how we deal with
notification.
> Magnus has previousley sent the comments below which I
would like
> confirmed by the TC
> * I believe we changed the
associateResource to take a parameter that
allows the caller to specify how
the resource should be treated, e.g.:
> - additional source file for the
job
> - previously translated source or target language version of the
job
> - translation memory
> - terminology database or glossary
(that may be optional or mandatory)
> - instructions, style guides, etc.
for the job Etc.
> * I also think we added the
retrieve(Full?)ResourcesList method, used
to retrieve a list of all
resources, whether they are associated with
jobs or not.
> * The
retrieveResourceListForJobs is not needed, as the resources
associated with a
job can be retrieved through retrieveJobInformation.
>
> 5/ Holiday
break - Do we want to suspend the meetings throughout
August and have our
next meeting on Thursday September 1st.
>
> 6/ AOB
>
>
Minutes:
> As there were only three members present we met informally and
took no
decisions.
>
> 1/ Present: Gerard, Andrzej,
Peter.
> Apologies: Magnus, Tony
>
> 2/ Minutes of the last
meeting will be reviewed at the next meeting.
>
> 3/ Metrics
>
Metrics -
>
http://www.lisa.org/archive_domain/newsletters/2004/2.3/zydron.html>
GILTMetrics.zip is attached to
>
http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/trans-ws/200407/msg00005.html>
>
Andrzej will liaise with Gilt Metrics group at Oscar. Andrzej will
be
requesting membership of a group to look at Gilt Metrics.
> Peter
has suggested that at present we should go with the count-group
from the
XLIFF specification rather than use the Gilt metrics. Gerard
suggested that
the lack of qualitive information is a problem and this
is included in Gilt
Metrics. Andrzej talked about the ideas behind this
from the starting point
of the count-group and the issues which made him
decide to go further than
count-group. He suggested that the reason for
going with count-group rather
than Gilt metric is that there may be some
time before Gilt Metrics are
finalised.
> Peter raised the issue of IPR and said that he would have to
ensure
that there were no IPR issues in relation to using this. Gerard said
he
will chase this up with LISA administration. Andrzej said that there
was
no IPR claim on this from him or his employers.
> Andrzej and
Gerard will confirm the status of the IPR issues. Andrzej
will draw up a
roadmap for completion of the Gilt Metrics specification
and share this with
us.
>
> 4/ Draft specification
> Peter will talk with
Stephen about this.
>
> 5/ Next meeting: September 1st.
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event details:
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