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Subject: Re: [ubl-australia] Minutes for ALSC Call 5 September 2018 10:00 AEST

Hi Levine,

I notice the 19 September is missing from the Conference Call Schedule in the minutes - has this been cancelled?

Kind regards,

On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 20:29 Levine Naidoo <levine@lxndigital.com> wrote:
Minutes for ALSC Call 5 September 2018 10:00 AEST


Martijn van den Boogaard
Ken Holman
Matt Lewis
Andrew Mitchell
Levine Naidoo (convenor)

Matt Vickers received in advance
Steve Ryan received in advance

  • the following should be used as a specific citation:
    OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.2
  • the canonical 2.2 documents are available in the OASIS repository:
  • the working semantic libraries for this subcommittee:
Google sheets are located in the ALSC google driveÂ


  1. Review of minutes
  • minutes were accepted

  1. Review of DBC semantic model (Invoice) approach:
    • Review model issues
      • Optionality in single child elements
      • Cardinality one Accounting Supplier and Customer Party
      • Invoice line documentation (PO, Despatch and Receipt)
      • Party Contact
      • Use of CompanyID in PartyTaxScheme - is it ABN or Branch ID and Cardinality
    • Review application of Invoice policy requirements
    • Review business rules
    • Produce Schematron, including empty elements check
    • TAXÂ Category Codes
    • Industry Scenarios
      • Existing trading networksÂ
        • Woolworths - Levine
Generally the flexibility of UBL can support translation to and from EANCOM. Â
The content of each invoice could be translated from one to the other, but due to the differences in how the models are structured there would need to be an implementation specific guide that provides rules on how to translate between them. - there doesnât appear to be a simple and straightforward forward mapping.Â
      • Coles - Andrew
        • Andrew to compare INVOIC with Core Invoice
      • Metcash - Andrew
        • Andrew to compare INVOIC with Core Invoice
      • Small Business - Matt Vickers,
      • GS1 XML - Levine
    • Payment Scenarios - Matt Lewis
      • Payment viaÂCard (Credit orÂDebit)Âe.g. Visa Debit
      • Payment via BPAY
      • Payment via online payment gateway (UI or API). e.g.ÂPostBillPay, PayPal, AfterPay or other vendors.
      • Payment via Direct Credit (within AU)
      • Payment via Direct Credit (international)
      • Payment via anÂNPP overlayÂ(using any PayID variant). e.g. OSKO
      • Payment via transfer ofÂCrypto-currency asset/token.
      • Payment via other method (as much as I dislike the concept many organisations still support payment over the phone, in person or via cheque. So our semantic model should support them to provide one or more textualÂpayment instructions.)
      • Partial or completeÂpre-payment. eg. a direct debit arrangements, partialÂdeposit etc.
  • Implementation guidance
    • Delivery structure
    • Payment Means
    • GST Free/ exempt examples
    • Invoice as Receipt
    • More test examples
  • Actions:
    • ABSIA is progressing discussion with Board.
    • Andrew is also progressing discussion with ABSIA Chair
  1. Documentation Approach
    • Proposed approach for review and creation of ALSC artefacts with coaching from Ken
- cnd01dw01 as working draft for artefacts
- cnd01dw01 be reviewed under public consultation
- Templates are available from OASIS
- ALSC Artefacts should be:
- spreadsheets
- schemas & html
- schematron
- document (xml via docbook or word document)

  1. P2P scope - numbered in priority order
    • Purchasing (2)
      • Order, Order Response Simple, Order Response, Order Change, Order Cancellation
    • Fulfilment (3)
      • Despatch Advice, Receipt Advice, Fulfilment Cancellation
    • Accounts Payable
      • Invoice including elaborate payment means (1), Remittance (1), statement (4), reminder (4), Utility Statement (4)

  1. JIRA tickets
Summary - https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20UBL%20AND%20component%20%3D%20%22Australia%20SC%22

When creating tickets for the SC, remember to use âAustralia SCâ to distinguish between the following components by how they are described to be used as categories:
if you leave the "Component/s" field empty, the ticket will not show up in the SC summary filter.

Status and resolution values:
  • NEW - the issue has been created but not yet agreed to be in consideration or not for the development distribution
    • in order for the issue to become active work for the committee the new ticket must be changed to OPEN or it will not be seen in the "to do" filter
    • the other option on a new ticket is to change it to DEFERRED
    • please remember to look at the open filter to ensure visibility:
  • OPEN - the issue is in consideration for the development distribution
    • keep the issue OPEN when assigning to Ken for incorporation
    • please remember to add a comment regarding expectations whenever you assign an OPEN ticket to another person for any action
  • RESOLVED + Applied - the issue is incorporated in test but not released
  • RESOLVED + Fixed - the issue is incorporated in a working draft version
  • RESOLVED + Later - the issue is still up for discussion for a future minor revision but not the current development
  • RESOLVED + No Action - considered as no action for any distribution
  • RESOLVED + Cannot Reproduce - considered as no action for distribution
  • APPLIED + Fixed - the issue is included in a public review (record the availability of the disposition once review opened)
  • DEFERRED - the issue is not in consideration for any minor revision
    • please remember to use this when creating new tickets for backwards-incompatible changes

See also the discussion on the status workflows here:

Members please note to discuss ticket issues as comments to the ticket so that we can audit the discussion when making decisions about the ticket, without having to find the discussion on the main mail list

Will review on an as needed basis

  • 3 October 11am AEST
  • 17 October 11am AEST
  • 31 October 11am AEST

  • None

Thank you

Matt Vickers

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