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Subject: Re: [ubl-comment] Fwd: RE: [ubl-dev] Invitation to comment on UBL Payment Means Information V1.0 - ends August 28th

Thank you, David. Weâve received your comments and will respond to them after the end of the public review.


Best regards,






From: David Goodenough <david.goodenough@broadwellmanor.co.uk>
Date: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 at 4:46 AM
To: "ubl-comment@lists.oasis-open.org" <ubl-comment@lists.oasis-open.org>
Subject: [ubl-comment] Fwd: RE: [ubl-dev] Invitation to comment on UBL Payment Means Information V1.0 - ends August 28th


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Subject: RE: [ubl-dev] Invitation to comment on UBL Payment Means Information V1.0 - ends August 28th
Date: Wednesday, 21 August 2019, 08:43:59 BST
From: Levine Naidoo <levine.naidoo@au1.ibm.com>
To: David Goodenough <david.goodenough@broadwellmanor.co.uk>
CC: ubl-dev@lists.oasis-open.org <ubl-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>

Hi David


Many thanks for your email.  Kindly submit to ubl-comment@lists.oasis-open.org for your comment to acknowledged and reviewed.


Thank you


Levine Naidoo



On 30 Jul 2019, at 03:20, David Goodenough <david.goodenough@broadwellmanor.co.uk> wrote:

A few items strike me:-


1) I realise that this may exist elsewhere, but either a link to that or if it does not exist the actual content of a mapping between UBL and ISO-20022

fields, and similarly between UBL and the OpenBanking API.


2) Certainly in the UK the address and even the institution name of the destination bank account are entirely unnecessary, at least when you make on online payment. Many of the sort codes are now virtual anyway, as branches have been closed and holder's home branch being moved to one of the few remaining branches while leaving the original sort code in place. In addition the payments these days never go anywhere near a branch, but are all dealt with centrally. I suppose it may be necessary for international transfers, in which case there may be need for two different means clauses.


3) In addition just as you mention that the actual account number in some cases may need to be obscured (although if the transaction is encrypted this becomes unnecessary), the address details might also be thought of as in need of obscuring as it simply provides information a scammer could use to misuse the banking data. Obviously end to end encryption would solve this problem.







On Monday, 29 July 2019 16:33:26 BST Chet Ensign wrote:

OASIS members and other interested parties,

OASIS and the OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) TC are pleased to announce that UBL Payment Means Information Version 1.0 is now available for public review and comment.

This Committee Note provides examples of how implementers can support different means of payment using UBL.

The documents and related files are available here:

UBL Payment Means Information Version 1.0
Committee Note Draft 01 / Public Review Draft 01
26 June 2019

Editable source (Authoritative):



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