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Subject: Re: [ubl-csc] [Fwd: [chairs] Member interface launch 17 March; needsattention; future plans]


I'm trying to work on the CMSC list; I cannot add Arofan Gregory :-( either,
which makes things kinda silly...

What are we supposed to do?



Tim McGrath wrote:
> Hmmm, obviously some of us are not - as i did not see this message.  I 
> am however, on the Kavi chairs system - so it appears they are not aligned.
> 
> It appears that the most critical thing is that  we have our UBL 
> 'roster' lists (as Kavi calls memberships) set up by Monday 17th.  
> 
> The lists themselves have been established for both UBL TC and all SCs, 
> except we appear to have no UBL-comment list!. The others appear to have 
> been populated - but not by recent data, and each member is only OBSERVER .
> 
> OASIS expect us to go through these lists and change the status (and 
> voting rights) of each member as appropriate.  I suspect this needs 
> Lisa's database, but in the short term I propose making all current 
> subscribers a MEMBER type and given them Voting rights - we can adjust 
> this backwards as necessary, but i figured this was the most common 
> case.  Unfortunately, I only have authority to update the UBL TC and UBL 
> LC SC lists so have only been able to make the necessary changes to these.  
> 
> By taking  a subscriber list off the current mailing lists and trying to 
> subscribe these onto the Kavi system, i discovered the following 
> integrity issues...
> 
> Kavi only allows official OASIS members on its roster lists.  When 
> adding a new member you must pick email addresses off pick lists of 
> existing OASIS members - so this means we have some differences to fix 
> up.  We cannot update email addresses or add new names, these are under 
> OASIS central control.
> 
> _Current subscribers to UBL TC list who will not be registered under 
> Kavi because they don't appear on the OASIS membership list..._
> chad.gates@vic.ara.com.au
> charliem22@yahoo.com
> doug_jones@agilent.com
> dsleeper@accessvia.com
> dvint@acord.org
> jean_luc_champion@yahoo.com
> leon@shiman.com
> robert.shanbaum@gerbercoburn.com
> I suggest that we email these and ask them to confirm their OASIS 
> membership (or arrange something with OASIS for 'guest experts')
> 
> _Current subscribers to UBL TC list who will be registered under Kavi 
> but with a different email address (probably an older one, because thats 
> what OASIS think it is)..._
> glushko@sims.berkeley.edu will be registered as  Bob.glushko@commerceone.com
> jhervey@cstorecentral.com will be registered as  jhervey@nacsonline.com
> lseaburg@aeon-llc.com will be will be registered as  xmlgeek@gmi.net
> matthew.gertner@acepoint.cz will be registered as  matthew@acepoint.cz
> 
> These members probably wont see any messages from Monday (unless they 
> have a forward set up) and wont be able to post using their current 
> email addresses.
> I suggest that we email these and ask them to update their OASIS 
> membership details (two of you are reading this message - i hope!)
> 
> _Current subscribers to UBL LCSC list who will not be registered under 
> Kavi because they don't appear on the OASIS membership list..._
> 
> arofan.gregory@earthlink.net
> chad.gates@vic.ara.com.au
> donrudie@att.net
> dvint@acord.org
> tb@abies.co.uk
> 
> _Current subscribers to UBL LCSC list who will be registered under Kavi 
> but with a different email address (probably an older one, because thats 
> what OASIS think it is)..._
> 
> lseaburg@aeon-llc.com will be will be registered as  xmlgeek@gmi.net
> 
> Chairs of other SCs will need to get an authorized Kavi username from 
> Scott (no relation) McGrath at scott.mcgrath@oasis-open.org and do 
> likewise - ideally before Monday.  If this doesn't happen most current 
> SC members will get postings, but no-one will be able to post to the list.
> 
> There are other issues with respect to web pages and access but these 
> are less time critical (hopefully).
> 
> 
> Eve L. Maler wrote:
> 
>> I don't know if all the UBL SC chairs are on the OASIS chairs list.  
>> In case you're not, here's an urgent notice regarding Kavi...
>>
>>     Eve
>>
>> -------- Original Message -------C
>> Subject: [chairs] Member interface launch 17 March;  needs attention; 
>> future plans
>> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 14:50:20 -0800
>> From: James Bryce Clark <jamie.clark@oasis-open.org>
>> To: chairs@lists.oasis-open.org
>>
>>      Per Karl's message, we are completing the initialization of the 
>> OASIS
>> member interface and its back-end database, and plan to launch officially
>> on Monday.
>>      As discussed on this list -- at some length -- when we flip the
>> switch, the definitive membership database also will control access to
>> OASIS mailing lists.  A fair number of TC chairs have not yet signed 
>> in to
>> review their TC membership lists.  The critical path for implementation
>> requires each chair to confirm the voting/observer status of each TC
>> participant.  The system also allows a properly-designated TC secretary
>> (might be a subordinate officer, vice-chair, etc.)  to do this *for* you.
>>      In the short run, failure to do so will result in legitimate members
>> being locked out from posting temporarily.  This would be 
>> disappointing and
>> perhaps disruptive to ongoing substantive work.  We ask each of you to 
>> make
>> it a first priority to enter your voting member designations.  I will
>> contact you to follow up on the status of your TC's membership roster 
>> next
>> week.
>>      Please note that we will launch the DB and access system with its
>> basic set of capabilities, as described in our announcements and training
>> sessions.   As also discussed -- a lot -- there may be functions that 
>> have
>> less granularity than some might like.
>>      Adoption of the interface software, like our work on shared document
>> naming rules, necessarily does constrain some of our activities into
>> taxonomies and normative locations.  There will be initial mapping 
>> issues,
>> and we are sensitive to persistent URI needs.  Still, we view this as a
>> positive and necessary step towards greater  transparency to our members
>> and to the target users of OASIS deliverables.  Effective, scalable 
>> access
>> to our rapidly-growing body of work always has been a core OASIS 
>> goal.  As
>> we get bigger and more diverse, it becomes more complex and even more
>> strategically important to do it well.
>>      We are receiving helpful comments and suggestions on this [chairs]
>> list, and off-sides.  We anticipate a second stage of tweaks and possible
>> extensions within a few months of the initial launch date.  As previously
>> announced, in order to preserve backward compatibility, we will co-locate
>> most pre-launch work product at its prior location as well as a new
>> DB-managed location during this interim period.  During that time our
>> community will explore and discuss persistent aliasing or 
>> cross-referencing
>> approaches.  This is the kind of challenge we should enjoy having.  It
>> results from our collective body of work being sufficiently large, dense
>> and archival to need careful planning.
>>      Obviously, we need and welcome your continued feedback.  Our task is
>> to maintain and refine good practices and procedures that work both 
>> for 50+
>> existing TCs, and for the many others who come to us and evaluate our
>> capabilities as a productive, open, fair, functional and effective 
>> platform
>> for their standards work.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Jamie Clark
>> OASIS Open
>> +1 978 667 5115 x 203
>>
>>
>>
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> 
> -- 
> regards
> tim mcgrath
> fremantle  western australia 6160
> phone: +618 93352228  fax: +618 93352142 
> 
> 

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