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Subject: Re: [ubl-csc] [Fwd: [chairs] Member interface launch 17 March; needsattention; future plans]
Everyone who is currently subscribed to the TC, SC, JC, MS SC, TAB, etc. lists will now be on your rosters except for people who are ineligible (not OASIS members) or are using email addresses not from their companies. Scott McGrath, the OASIS membership director, will be contacting these people to ask them to set up accounts using the correct email address. If you have any questions about why a particualr person is not on your roster please contact Scott at scott.mcgrath@oasis-open.org.
I'm trying to work on the CMSC list; I cannot add Arofan Gregory :-( either,
which makes things kinda silly...
What are we supposed to do?
Tim McGrath wrote:
Hmmm, obviously some of us are not - as i did not see this message. I am however, on the Kavi chairs system - so it appears they are not aligned.
It appears that the most critical thing is that we have our UBL 'roster' lists (as Kavi calls memberships) set up by Monday 17th.
The lists themselves have been established for both UBL TC and all SCs, except we appear to have no UBL-comment list!. The others appear to have been populated - but not by recent data, and each member is only OBSERVER .
OASIS expect us to go through these lists and change the status (and voting rights) of each member as appropriate. I suspect this needs Lisa's database, but in the short term I propose making all current subscribers a MEMBER type and given them Voting rights - we can adjust this backwards as necessary, but i figured this was the most common case. Unfortunately, I only have authority to update the UBL TC and UBL LC SC lists so have only been able to make the necessary changes to these.
By taking a subscriber list off the current mailing lists and trying to subscribe these onto the Kavi system, i discovered the following integrity issues...
Kavi only allows official OASIS members on its roster lists. When adding a new member you must pick email addresses off pick lists of existing OASIS members - so this means we have some differences to fix up. We cannot update email addresses or add new names, these are under OASIS central control.
_Current subscribers to UBL TC list who will not be registered under Kavi because they don't appear on the OASIS membership list..._
chad.gates@vic.ara.com.au
charliem22@yahoo.com
doug_jones@agilent.com
dsleeper@accessvia.com
dvint@acord.org
jean_luc_champion@yahoo.com
leon@shiman.com
robert.shanbaum@gerbercoburn.com
I suggest that we email these and ask them to confirm their OASIS membership (or arrange something with OASIS for 'guest experts')
_Current subscribers to UBL TC list who will be registered under Kavi but with a different email address (probably an older one, because thats what OASIS think it is)..._
glushko@sims.berkeley.edu will be registered as Bob.glushko@commerceone.com
jhervey@cstorecentral.com will be registered as jhervey@nacsonline.com
lseaburg@aeon-llc.com will be will be registered as xmlgeek@gmi.net
matthew.gertner@acepoint.cz will be registered as matthew@acepoint.cz
These members probably wont see any messages from Monday (unless they have a forward set up) and wont be able to post using their current email addresses.
I suggest that we email these and ask them to update their OASIS membership details (two of you are reading this message - i hope!)
_Current subscribers to UBL LCSC list who will not be registered under Kavi because they don't appear on the OASIS membership list..._
arofan.gregory@earthlink.net
chad.gates@vic.ara.com.au
donrudie@att.net
dvint@acord.org
tb@abies.co.uk
_Current subscribers to UBL LCSC list who will be registered under Kavi but with a different email address (probably an older one, because thats what OASIS think it is)..._
lseaburg@aeon-llc.com will be will be registered as xmlgeek@gmi.net
Chairs of other SCs will need to get an authorized Kavi username from Scott (no relation) McGrath at scott.mcgrath@oasis-open.org and do likewise - ideally before Monday. If this doesn't happen most current SC members will get postings, but no-one will be able to post to the list.
There are other issues with respect to web pages and access but these are less time critical (hopefully).
Eve L. Maler wrote:
I don't know if all the UBL SC chairs are on the OASIS chairs list. In case you're not, here's an urgent notice regarding Kavi...
Eve
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Subject: [chairs] Member interface launch 17 March; needs attention; future plans
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 14:50:20 -0800
From: James Bryce Clark <jamie.clark@oasis-open.org>
To: chairs@lists.oasis-open.org
Per Karl's message, we are completing the initialization of the OASIS
member interface and its back-end database, and plan to launch officially
on Monday.
As discussed on this list -- at some length -- when we flip the
switch, the definitive membership database also will control access to
OASIS mailing lists. A fair number of TC chairs have not yet signed in to
review their TC membership lists. The critical path for implementation
requires each chair to confirm the voting/observer status of each TC
participant. The system also allows a properly-designated TC secretary
(might be a subordinate officer, vice-chair, etc.) to do this *for* you.
In the short run, failure to do so will result in legitimate members
being locked out from posting temporarily. This would be disappointing and
perhaps disruptive to ongoing substantive work. We ask each of you to make
it a first priority to enter your voting member designations. I will
contact you to follow up on the status of your TC's membership roster next
week.
Please note that we will launch the DB and access system with its
basic set of capabilities, as described in our announcements and training
sessions. As also discussed -- a lot -- there may be functions that have
less granularity than some might like.
Adoption of the interface software, like our work on shared document
naming rules, necessarily does constrain some of our activities into
taxonomies and normative locations. There will be initial mapping issues,
and we are sensitive to persistent URI needs. Still, we view this as a
positive and necessary step towards greater transparency to our members
and to the target users of OASIS deliverables. Effective, scalable access
to our rapidly-growing body of work always has been a core OASIS goal. As
we get bigger and more diverse, it becomes more complex and even more
strategically important to do it well.
We are receiving helpful comments and suggestions on this [chairs]
list, and off-sides. We anticipate a second stage of tweaks and possible
extensions within a few months of the initial launch date. As previously
announced, in order to preserve backward compatibility, we will co-locate
most pre-launch work product at its prior location as well as a new
DB-managed location during this interim period. During that time our
community will explore and discuss persistent aliasing or cross-referencing
approaches. This is the kind of challenge we should enjoy having. It
results from our collective body of work being sufficiently large, dense
and archival to need careful planning.
Obviously, we need and welcome your continued feedback. Our task is
to maintain and refine good practices and procedures that work both for 50+
existing TCs, and for the many others who come to us and evaluate our
capabilities as a productive, open, fair, functional and effective platform
for their standards work.
Best regards
Jamie Clark
OASIS Open
+1 978 667 5115 x 203
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