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Subject: Re: [ubl-csc] [Fwd: [chairs] Member interface launch 17 March; needsattention; future plans]
sorry you are correct - i now realise that the SC pick list comes off the the TC list. i had missed him off the UCL TC list. He is subscribed as arofan_gregory@hotmail.com whereas it should be arofan.gregory@earthlink.net (according to the old list) - so he is in the second category. you should be able to add him to the SC now. Eduardo Gutentag wrote: > But to add him with his old email address he has to appear in the > list, and > he doesn't... > > Tim McGrath wrote: > >> we can only add arofan with his old email address and then ... >> >>> Everyone who is currently subscribed to the TC, SC, JC, MS SC, TAB, >>> etc. lists will now be on your rosters _*except for people who are >>> ineligible (not OASIS members) or are using email addresses not from >>> their companies*_. Scott McGrath, the OASIS membership director, >>> will be contacting these people to ask them to set up accounts using >>> the correct email address. If you have any questions about why a >>> particualr person is not on your roster please contact Scott at >>> scott.mcgrath@oasis-open.org. >>> >> >> good luck. (it now appears we have until monday afternoon (your time) >> to resolve this.). >> >> Eduardo Gutentag wrote: >> >>> I'm trying to work on the CMSC list; I cannot add Arofan Gregory :-( >>> either, >>> which makes things kinda silly... >>> >>> What are we supposed to do? >>> >>> >>> >>> Tim McGrath wrote: >>> >>>> Hmmm, obviously some of us are not - as i did not see this >>>> message. I am however, on the Kavi chairs system - so it appears >>>> they are not aligned. >>>> >>>> It appears that the most critical thing is that we have our UBL >>>> 'roster' lists (as Kavi calls memberships) set up by Monday 17th. >>>> The lists themselves have been established for both UBL TC and all >>>> SCs, except we appear to have no UBL-comment list!. The others >>>> appear to have been populated - but not by recent data, and each >>>> member is only OBSERVER . >>>> >>>> OASIS expect us to go through these lists and change the status >>>> (and voting rights) of each member as appropriate. I suspect this >>>> needs Lisa's database, but in the short term I propose making all >>>> current subscribers a MEMBER type and given them Voting rights - we >>>> can adjust this backwards as necessary, but i figured this was the >>>> most common case. Unfortunately, I only have authority to update >>>> the UBL TC and UBL LC SC lists so have only been able to make the >>>> necessary changes to these. By taking a subscriber list off the >>>> current mailing lists and trying to subscribe these onto the Kavi >>>> system, i discovered the following integrity issues... >>>> >>>> Kavi only allows official OASIS members on its roster lists. When >>>> adding a new member you must pick email addresses off pick lists of >>>> existing OASIS members - so this means we have some differences to >>>> fix up. We cannot update email addresses or add new names, these >>>> are under OASIS central control. >>>> >>>> _Current subscribers to UBL TC list who will not be registered >>>> under Kavi because they don't appear on the OASIS membership list..._ >>>> chad.gates@vic.ara.com.au >>>> charliem22@yahoo.com >>>> doug_jones@agilent.com >>>> dsleeper@accessvia.com >>>> dvint@acord.org >>>> jean_luc_champion@yahoo.com >>>> leon@shiman.com >>>> robert.shanbaum@gerbercoburn.com >>>> I suggest that we email these and ask them to confirm their OASIS >>>> membership (or arrange something with OASIS for 'guest experts') >>>> >>>> _Current subscribers to UBL TC list who will be registered under >>>> Kavi but with a different email address (probably an older one, >>>> because thats what OASIS think it is)..._ >>>> glushko@sims.berkeley.edu will be registered as >>>> Bob.glushko@commerceone.com >>>> jhervey@cstorecentral.com will be registered as >>>> jhervey@nacsonline.com >>>> lseaburg@aeon-llc.com will be will be registered as xmlgeek@gmi.net >>>> matthew.gertner@acepoint.cz will be registered as matthew@acepoint.cz >>>> >>>> These members probably wont see any messages from Monday (unless >>>> they have a forward set up) and wont be able to post using their >>>> current email addresses. >>>> I suggest that we email these and ask them to update their OASIS >>>> membership details (two of you are reading this message - i hope!) >>>> >>>> _Current subscribers to UBL LCSC list who will not be registered >>>> under Kavi because they don't appear on the OASIS membership list..._ >>>> >>>> arofan.gregory@earthlink.net >>>> chad.gates@vic.ara.com.au >>>> donrudie@att.net >>>> dvint@acord.org >>>> tb@abies.co.uk >>>> >>>> _Current subscribers to UBL LCSC list who will be registered under >>>> Kavi but with a different email address (probably an older one, >>>> because thats what OASIS think it is)..._ >>>> >>>> lseaburg@aeon-llc.com will be will be registered as xmlgeek@gmi.net >>>> >>>> Chairs of other SCs will need to get an authorized Kavi username >>>> from Scott (no relation) McGrath at scott.mcgrath@oasis-open.org >>>> and do likewise - ideally before Monday. If this doesn't happen >>>> most current SC members will get postings, but no-one will be able >>>> to post to the list. >>>> >>>> There are other issues with respect to web pages and access but >>>> these are less time critical (hopefully). >>>> >>>> >>>> Eve L. Maler wrote: >>>> >>>>> I don't know if all the UBL SC chairs are on the OASIS chairs >>>>> list. In case you're not, here's an urgent notice regarding Kavi... >>>>> >>>>> Eve >>>>> >>>>> -------- Original Message -------C >>>>> Subject: [chairs] Member interface launch 17 March; needs >>>>> attention; future plans >>>>> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 14:50:20 -0800 >>>>> From: James Bryce Clark <jamie.clark@oasis-open.org> >>>>> To: chairs@lists.oasis-open.org >>>>> >>>>> Per Karl's message, we are completing the initialization of >>>>> the OASIS >>>>> member interface and its back-end database, and plan to launch >>>>> officially >>>>> on Monday. >>>>> As discussed on this list -- at some length -- when we flip the >>>>> switch, the definitive membership database also will control >>>>> access to >>>>> OASIS mailing lists. A fair number of TC chairs have not yet >>>>> signed in to >>>>> review their TC membership lists. The critical path for >>>>> implementation >>>>> requires each chair to confirm the voting/observer status of each TC >>>>> participant. The system also allows a properly-designated TC >>>>> secretary >>>>> (might be a subordinate officer, vice-chair, etc.) to do this >>>>> *for* you. >>>>> In the short run, failure to do so will result in legitimate >>>>> members >>>>> being locked out from posting temporarily. This would be >>>>> disappointing and >>>>> perhaps disruptive to ongoing substantive work. We ask each of >>>>> you to make >>>>> it a first priority to enter your voting member designations. I will >>>>> contact you to follow up on the status of your TC's membership >>>>> roster next >>>>> week. >>>>> Please note that we will launch the DB and access system with >>>>> its >>>>> basic set of capabilities, as described in our announcements and >>>>> training >>>>> sessions. As also discussed -- a lot -- there may be functions >>>>> that have >>>>> less granularity than some might like. >>>>> Adoption of the interface software, like our work on shared >>>>> document >>>>> naming rules, necessarily does constrain some of our activities into >>>>> taxonomies and normative locations. There will be initial mapping >>>>> issues, >>>>> and we are sensitive to persistent URI needs. Still, we view this >>>>> as a >>>>> positive and necessary step towards greater transparency to our >>>>> members >>>>> and to the target users of OASIS deliverables. Effective, >>>>> scalable access >>>>> to our rapidly-growing body of work always has been a core OASIS >>>>> goal. As >>>>> we get bigger and more diverse, it becomes more complex and even more >>>>> strategically important to do it well. >>>>> We are receiving helpful comments and suggestions on this >>>>> [chairs] >>>>> list, and off-sides. We anticipate a second stage of tweaks and >>>>> possible >>>>> extensions within a few months of the initial launch date. As >>>>> previously >>>>> announced, in order to preserve backward compatibility, we will >>>>> co-locate >>>>> most pre-launch work product at its prior location as well as a new >>>>> DB-managed location during this interim period. During that time our >>>>> community will explore and discuss persistent aliasing or >>>>> cross-referencing >>>>> approaches. This is the kind of challenge we should enjoy >>>>> having. It >>>>> results from our collective body of work being sufficiently large, >>>>> dense >>>>> and archival to need careful planning. >>>>> Obviously, we need and welcome your continued feedback. Our >>>>> task is >>>>> to maintain and refine good practices and procedures that work >>>>> both for 50+ >>>>> existing TCs, and for the many others who come to us and evaluate our >>>>> capabilities as a productive, open, fair, functional and effective >>>>> platform >>>>> for their standards work. >>>>> >>>>> Best regards >>>>> Jamie Clark >>>>> OASIS Open >>>>> +1 978 667 5115 x 203 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription >>>>> manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> regards >>>> tim mcgrath >>>> fremantle western australia 6160 >>>> phone: +618 93352228 fax: +618 93352142 >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> regards >> tim mcgrath >> fremantle western australia 6160 >> phone: +618 93352228 fax: +618 93352142 >> > -- regards tim mcgrath fremantle western australia 6160 phone: +618 93352228 fax: +618 93352142 ---------------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>
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