RE: [ubl] Coordination call 11 February 2004

["CRAWFORD, Mark" <MCRAWFORD@lmi.org>]

I have taken this off the main UBL list because it should be kept between the chairs at this point.

Unfortunately, I can not make today's call as I am speaking at an engagement that Jon arranged.  Without getting into the specifics of the points that Tim has raised in his email, I would like to make sure that the record is clear.  First - the NDR rules are essentially unchanged from last August so there should be no surprises.  The changes that took place in November were for the most part to align the documentation and other aspects with what was requested by LC.  The changes in rules that have taken place since November are limited to the elimination of the RT schema module and its replacement with the unqualified DT module to align the treatment of DTs consistent with what library has done.  NO OTHER RULE CHANGES HAVE TAKEN PLACE.  

For a long time there was a lack of coordination between the schema expressions being created by LC and the NDR rules.  This resulted in release of 1.0B schema that were not in conformance to the NDR rules.  We all agreed prior to release 1.0B that we would go ahead and release those schema despite their non-conformance with the full understanding that Version 1.0 would be fully conformant with NDR.  

I am particularly troubled by the suggestion that NDR now needs to align with LCs schema practices.  Such a course of action would negate the work of NDR and its responsibility for schema structure and I can not support it.  Michael Dill is working diligently to ensure that the library is expressed without change in XSD schema that fully conform to the NDR as it currently exists.  He is on track to deliver to meet our schedule.  We should allow that process to go forward.

Mark 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim McGrath [mailto:tmcgrath@portcomm.com.au]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 9:09 PM
> To: jon.bosak@Sun.COM
> Cc: ubl@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: Re: [ubl] Coordination call 11 February 2004
> 
> 
> I was requested to provide this meeting with an assessment of my 
> comments w.r.t. the NDR Draft L document.
> 
> To make this easier, I have updated Lisa's spreadsheet with 
> categories 
> and asked her to post this to the NDR site where anyone 
> interested can 
> download it (rather than clog up this list).  The current 
> uncategorised 
> list is available at 
> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ubl/ubl-ndrsc/dow
> nload.php/5410/Tims-Issues.xls.
> 
> I have used three categories:
> Scope:
> The comment relates to whether this material belongs in this document 
> (is covered by the charter of the NDR subcommittee)
> Editorial:
> Comments that relate to the terminology or document structure.
> Content:
> Comments relating to rules or narrative that appear not to align with 
> the actual practice or structure of the UBL Library (and 
> therefore the 
> 1.0-Beta release).  
> 
> There are 15 issues in  the category of Scope, 43 Editorial and 31 
> Content.  Whilst some of these overlap and repeat, at least 
> it gives a 
> feel for the scale we are facing.  I would also suggest that 
> the order 
> in which these should be dealt with are Scope, Content and then 
> Editorial.  Where possible, I have included suggestions for possible 
> solutions to these issues - specifically those of Content 
> which I think 
> is where there is greatest confusion.
> 
> I hope this helps evaluate the best strategy completing the 
> 1.0 release.
> 
> jon.bosak@Sun.COM wrote:
> 
> >The next UBL CSC coordination call will take place 8 a.m.
> >California time Wednesday 11 February at the following number:
> >
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> >As usual, the call is officially a CSC conference, but
> >participation is open to all interested UBL TC members.
> >
> >The primary work item this week is the construction of a detailed
> >agenda for the upcoming UBL TC meeting in Washington 23-27
> >February.
> >
> >Jon
> >
> >
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tim mcgrath
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