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Subject: Re: [ubl-csc] Hong Kong planning
[tmcgrath@portcomm.com.au:]
| at this stage i am assuming that most subcommittees will not be
| meeting independently (i don't think LC will meet more than one
| session - if at all). so when we talk about technical breakouts,
| these are ad-hoc subgroups. is that correct?
Right.
| if so, then can i suggest this group address the tasks in our
| future work items.
I agree (and thanks for the further detail, I'll work it in). But
the most effective grouping is not the logical one, it's the one
that makes best use of the people in attendance. Those people
fall into two groups:
- technical/business experts
- localization experts
And therefore the most effective work program will be
- a technical/business track
- a parallel localization track
- a set of plenaries to deal with the issues that can't safely be
put into one of the two parallel tracks
My estimation of what can safely be trusted to a subgroup without
creating coordination problems farther down the line is
considerably less expansive than it used to be. So modulo the
addition of further detail, I'm not seeing anything that would
make me change the basic arrangement I suggested earlier. (I'm
also factoring in the schedules of a couple of visitors who will
only be with us for a couple of days.)
A more detailed version of the schedule appears below.
Jon
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Attendance: results so far (note: I am presently about a day
behind in mail, so this may not be completely current)
Will attend in person
Jon Bosak
Mavis Cournane
Mark Crawford
Stephen Green
Eduardo Gutentag*
Anne Hendry
Ken Holman*
Noboru Itoh*
Sung Hyuk Kim
Tim McGrath
Stig Korsgaard
Thomas Lee
Yukinori Saito
Paul Thorpe
Patrick Yee
* Needs confirmation
Will not be there in person but will try to attend by phone
Jessica Glace
Mike Grimley
Sue Probert
Kumar Sivaraman
Sylvia Webb
Will definitely not attend
Marty Burns
Tony Coates
Bob Glushko
Monica Martin
Garret Minakawa
Mark Palmer
Marion Royal
Lisa Seaburg
Alan Stitzer
Visitors
I think we will have several visitors in addition to the people
listed above, but their schedules are still uncertain.
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Phones
I think that enough people have indicated a desire to
participate by phone to justify keeping the line open during
plenary sessions.
Meeting structure
I suggest that we meet in plenary session about half the time
and in breakouts the other half. I suggest that breakouts be
structured in two physically separate tracks, technical and
l10n/regional, and one virtual track, admin/marketing.
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SCHEDULE
Mon 5/10 09h15-12h00 Opening plenary
Opening
SC reports
Finalize agenda for the week
12h00-13h00 Lunch
13h00-17h00 Continuing plenary: Localization (l10n)
Items to be translated
Form in which translations will be
published
Multibyte character set issues
Kavi issues
Involvement of regional legal
experts
Work program and scheduling
17h00-17h30 Chairs meeting
Tue 5/11 09h00-12h00 Plenary: Customization and conformance
Meaning of "UBL conformance"
Meaning of "industry profile"
Industry profiling and customization
guidelines
12h00-13h00 Lunch
13h00-17h00 Breakouts (see below)
17h00-17h30 Chairs meeting
Wed 5/12 09h00-12h00 Plenary: UBL 1.1
Work plan for 1.1
Scheduling technical issues
(see breakouts below)
NDR publication
UBL liaisons
Organizations using UBL
Organizations wishing to define UBL
industry profiles
Organizations interested in UBL but
not intending to adopt it
The role of a Liaison SC
Liaison relationships vs.
localization relationships
Relationship with UN/CEFACT TBG17
12h00-13h00 Lunch
13h00-17h00 Breakouts (see below)
17h00-17h30 Chairs meeting
Thu 5/13 09h00-12h00 Breakouts (see below)
12h00-13h00 Lunch
13h00-17h00 Breakouts (see below); report generation
17h00-18h00 Wine & Cheese party
Fri 5/14 09h00-12h00 Closing plenary
Marketing report
Technical report
Localization report
Subcommittee reorganization
Atlantic/Pacific coordination
Closing
BREAKOUTS
Tuesday afternoon, Wednesday afternoon, and all day Thursday we
will split into two groups, one consisting of technical experts
and one consisting of localization experts. The chair will
constitute a third "virtual" track to do marketing and
administrative work. The work items for the two groups will be
as follows:
Technical breakout (Tue-Thu):
- Completion of NDR document
- Further work on customization guidelines
- Evaluation of the use of substitution groups for code list
customization (identify issues in preparation for public
discussion)
- Importation of codelist schema modules via the SDT module or
directly into the aggregate schema and all the document
schemas
- Location of qualified BBIE property elements definitions
- Relative paths in schema modules
- Version element in the documentation of every BIE
- CCTS schema work plan
- OAG/UBL collaboration
- Relationship with ATG2
- Staffing and scheduling
Localization breakout (Tue-Thu):
- L10N subcommittee meetings
- Regional UBL 1.0 marketing (meet with each l10n sc)
Marketing/administrative breakout (Tue-Thu):
- English-language UBL 1.0 marketing
- Preparation of plan for SC reorganization and
Atlantic/Pacific coordination
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