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Subject: Re: [ubl-dev] Online UBL validator?


David,

Let's stick to technology and keep off the side tracks please.

I merely was pointing to your somewhat overly cryptic response
that left the reader completely guessing.  I prefer to be explicit
when it comes to technology and capabilities.

We've worked years on developing CAM and have a committee
approved draft and an open source implementation that augments
and enriches ebXML especially, and is well suited to UBL too
of course.

Like UBL everyone needs more up take and extended use cases.

People recognize eventually that these tasks do not have 'quick fixes'
and now we are seeing them understanding the value and serious
nature of the standards we have engineered - and how they can
take advantage of them to solve their needs.

I've also just finished a complete review of available ebXML solutions
that you can find at  http://ebxmlforum.org

DW.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <david.lyon@computergrid.net>
To: "David RR Webber" <david@drrw.info>
Cc: "Micah Dubinko" <micah@dubinko.info>; <ubl-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: [ubl-dev] Online UBL validator?


> Well sure.
>
> I've looked at those tools and have seen what they do. They seem
> fine.
>
> If anything, UBL needs way more tools from way more people than
> it has.
>
> and I sometimes get the impression that there is a lot of
> negative encouragement given to anybody outside of the
> oasis banner, as if to say, leave it to the big boys, we'll
> take care of it. Whatever....
>
> UBL and ebxml is struggling... can't see why....
>
> > Whatever that is of course we'll have to wait and see ; -)
>
> so poke fun. enjoy yourself. This sort of attitude is crap
> no wonder why people aren't buying ebxml/ubl. Who would want
> this sort of treatment?
>
> Quoting David RR Webber <david@drrw.info>:
>
> > David,
> >
> > Whatever that is of course we'll have to wait and see ; -)
> >
> > Since people can download the jCAM and UBL template sample right now
they
> > can take advantage of what it does right away.
> >
> > And in fact the idea that Micah was looking for works very nicely.
> >
> > You can have some JavaScript in the webbrowser calling the jCAM
processor
> > running as a webservice - and returning output back the browser.
> >
> > Martin already has that working for some of his BT transactions and
> > templates.
> >
> > Examples of that kind of JavaScript is right there in the CAM tutorial
HTML
> > forms - and the online CAM Wizard - that is in the ZIP file when you
> > download
> > that from the OASIS site.  That could be easily adapted to do what Micah
> > wants
> > - or of course you could use XForms similarly (not had time to get into
that
> > myself yet though...)
> >
> > Cheers, DW
> > ===========================================================
> > Quoting david.lyon@computergrid.net:
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks for the suggestion David,
> > >
> > > but I'll stick to the tests that we already have. They do what
> > > we need.
> > >
> > > Quoting David RR Webber <david@drrw.info>:
> > >
> > > > Folks,
> > > >
> > > > You can also use OASIS CAM for this right now.
> > > >
> > > > The jCAM open source component is available from:
> > > >
> > > >  http://www.jcam.org.uk
> > > >
> > > > and a tutorial that includes a UBL example CAM template
> > > > is available from the OASIS CAM TC area.
> > > >
> > > > Enjoy, DW
> > > > =========================================================
> > > > Quoting david.lyon@computergrid.net:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Micah,
> > > > >
> > > > > We are in the middle of producing a UBL validator/testpad so we
> > haven't
> > > > made
> > > > > it
> > > > > publicly available yet.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's written in Perl and does a wide variety of tests on
documents.
> > The
> > > > > basic
> > > > > idea is that it would be able to scrutinise a trading partners
> > documents
> > > > for
> > > > > compliance to the specifications.
> > > > >
> > > > > Our plan is to release the tool as shareware in the next month or
so.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is the output from one script when used on the standard UBL
> > > example.
> > > > >
> > > > > D:\ComputerGrid\ComputerGrid UBL Testpad>perl CheckPO.pl
> > > > > UBL-Order-1.0-beta-Joinery-Example.xml
> > > > > Computergrid.net - UBL PO Document Test Script
> > > > > .Checking Header for mandatory fields
> > > > >   ..[Exists] /Order/cat:IssueDate
> > > > >   ..[Exists] /Order/cat:BuyersID
> > > > >   ..[Not Exists] /Order/cat:SellersID
> > > > >   ..[Not Exists] /Order/cat:LineExtensionTotalAmount
> > > > >   ..[Not Exists] /Order/cat:LineItemCountQuantity
> > > > >   ..[Not Exists] /Order/cat:BuyerParty/cat:SellerAssignedAccountID
> > > > >   ..[Exists] /Order/cat:OrderLine[1]
> > > > >   ..[Exists] /Order/cat:OrderLine[1]/cat:LineItem/cat:Quantity
> > > > >   ..[Not Exists]
> > > > > /Order/cat:OrderLine[1]/cat:LineItem/cat:LineExtensionAmount
> > > > >   ..[Not Exists]
> > > > > /Order/cat:OrderLine[1]/cat:LineItem/cat:Item/cat:Description
> > > > >   ..[Exists] /Order/cat:OrderLine1]/cat:LineItem/cat:Item/cat:
> > > > > SellersItemIdentification/cat:ID
> > > > > [Fail] Document failed Validatation test with 6 Errors
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > >
> > > > > David
> > > > >
> > > > > Quoting Micah Dubinko <micah@dubinko.info>:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Do there exist any online validators for UBL documents?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One thing I am considering is adapting my XForms Validator
technology
> >
> > > > > > (http://xformsinstitute.com/validator/) to UBL and/or UBL Lite.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The primary component is a RelaxNG schema that runs the
> > validation...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > .micah
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://drrw.net
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > http://drrw.net
> >
>
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
>



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