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Subject: Re: [ubl-dev] Re: Online UBL validator?


Thanks Jon,

fortunately, I'm more thick skinned than most crocodiles :-)

Quoting jon.bosak@sun.com:

> [david.lyon@computergrid.net:]
> 
> | We are in the middle of producing a UBL validator/testpad so we
> | haven't made it publicly available yet.
> | 
> | It's written in Perl and does a wide variety of tests on
> | documents. The basic idea is that it would be able to scrutinise a
> | trading partners documents for compliance to the specifications.
> | 
> | Our plan is to release the tool as shareware in the next month or
> | so.
> 
> David,
> 
> This is exactly the kind of tool we need to make UBL practical,
> and I'm glad to see the ubl-dev list beginning to function as a
> place for sharing this sort of information.  As your examples
> show, real-life applications need to do a lot of "business
> validation" beyond the "schema validation" provided by the UBL
> schemas.  It will be interesting to see the various approaches
> that emerge to accomplish this.
> 
> | If anything, UBL needs way more tools from way more people than
> | it has.
> 
> I completely agree.  The more, the better.
> 
> | and I sometimes get the impression that there is a lot of
> | negative encouragement given to anybody outside of the
> | oasis banner, as if to say, leave it to the big boys, we'll
> | take care of it. Whatever....
> 
> Please don't take the comments of any particular OASIS participant
> as reflecting the organization as a whole.  OASIS has one of the
> least hierarchical organizational structures of any major
> standards body, and no chair of an OASIS TC speaks for any other
> TC.  I can assure you as the chair of the UBL TC that we are
> wholeheartedly supportive of efforts such as yours, and I applaud
> the shareware approach you're planning to adopt for distribution
> of your product.
> 
> | UBL and ebxml is struggling... can't see why....
> 
> UBL and ebXML are both continuing to steadily gain traction in the
> face of heavy opposition from certain Very Large American Software
> Companies.  Those of us who were privileged to watch the early
> "grass roots" stages of Web adoption can see some basic
> similarities here.  Just as in the case of the web, homegrown
> products such as yours will play an essential role in deploying
> these user-oriented technologies.  Keep up the good work!
> 
> Jon
> 
> 




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