Re: [ubl-dev] Patent encumberances as they apply to UBL?

["David Webber \(XML\)" <david@drrw.info>]

David,

I think you are being melodramatic.

Since the Danish government is using UBL - I think it highly unlikely
Microsoft will win any cases here.  Who are they going to throw in
Guantanamo as an XML terrorist - the Danish Minister for IT?

Ditto XML itself.  Every western government is probably in 
violation of this XML patent, along with major corporations.

At least you will have good company as cell mates!

I would not be losing too much sleep on this one - I'm sure
there are Australian government institutions you need to be
worrying about before the US Government, in targetting
a shopping mall somewhere near you!

Cheers, DW

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lyon" <david.lyon@computergrid.net>
To: <ubl-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [ubl-dev] Patent encumberances as they apply to UBL?


> On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:19 am, David Webber (XML) wrote:
> >Actually you have to persist <free speech>my opinion</free speech>
> >from a programming language memory object in a document
> >presentation into a storage media using XML.
> 
> Yes, of course, that's what so many of have been doing for
> years and it is now a criminal offence.
> 
> Whilst it is easy for you to joke about it, the recent case
> of a Russian extradited to the States over an Adobe
> related patented is an example of why this ms xml patent
> is so bad.
> 
> Some countries don't have extradiction treaties, so
> programmers there can do what they like with xml.
> 
> But in Western countries, violating the above patent
> means that you can be extradited, thrown in a detention
> centre, beaten, have your human rights waved goodbye
> and if you are really lucky, get a few really nice sessions 
> of sexual abuse.
> 
> If you think this doesn't happen with USPTO patents
> then you have been sucking down to much laughing
> gas.
> 
> So all of us that have been doing xml systems even
> before the patent was finalised - are at risk of this
> treatment.
> 
> If you think this is just a joke or that we are being
> paranoid, why not, after all you are in the laughing 
> seat.
> 
> Every western system needs to make examples
> so it's only a matter of time before "somebody"
> will get picked and "processed" for being an
> "illegal operative" of an xml system.
> 
> So the only real choice is to seriously start to
> think about decommissioning our "illegal" xml
> systems - before the law is enforced and our
> penalties applied.
> 
> For you to say that I am paranoid is totally
> unbelievable....
> 
> Do you honestly think international treaties are
> a joke? yes... you probably do... 
> 
> Do you really think that the us govt will care
> about the human rights of these "illegal operatives"
> when us patents are at stake?
> 
> because you don't have to worry about being
> on the receiving end...
> 
> David
> 
> 
> 
> 
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