RE: [ubl-dev] Re: [ebxml-dev] P2P for e-business - applications?

["David RR Webber \(XML\)" <david@drrw.info>]

David,   

Oddly enough - I believe Africa is a bigger catalyst for change right
now than Asia.   

Cell phones and PDAs are the drivers.  As happened in Asia - cellphones
are taking Africa by storm - 1 in 3 adults now have one in the more
developed states.   And because there is no legacy infrastructure -
they don't have to replace anything.   

But what the cells are used for is the key.  Wireless banking.  Kenya
and Uganda are now doing transfers using cell phones - and the phone is
your digital wallet - with balances.  And this is real money being
transferred securely to family members from ex-pat' workers in EU and
America.  

But what it enables is digital money in the local economy - I can
transfer money from my phone to yours via the bank and a PIN code.  And
the bank will honor this - I can go into a branch and get real hard cash
for my balance.   

Tax authorities in EU and America of course will not take note until
this becomes common place here too.  Or - people buy phones in Africa
and ship them to EU and America to allow this type of transfer - via
the bank in Africa...   

Breaks all the rules doesn't it?     

; -)   

So its only a matter of time - 1 year, 3 years, 5 years?  Pick a number
- before politicians - are going to wake up and demand a technology
solution to restore tax revenues...   

Until then - its business-as-usual - a la Inovis - but this train has
already left the station - it's just a matter of when it arrives - not
if...   

DW

"The way to be is to do" - Confucius (551-472 B.C.)
 

 -------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [ubl-dev] Re: [ebxml-dev] P2P for e-business -
applications?
From: david.lyon@preisshare.net
Date: Thu, March 22, 2007 1:25 am
To: ubl-dev@lists.oasis-open.org

Quoting Stephen Green <stephengreenubl@gmail.com>:

> I'd personally always favoured the P2P model primarily
> but seen the hub model or variants as a fallback.

But they work.....

looking at:

http://www.inovis.com/solutions/catalogue/

"Retailers: Easy access to current product information

    * Multiple access options including web-based user interface,  
EDI, XML and real-time application integration"

what more could you want?

The benefits of true p2p could only be marginal over the above.

In fact it's fair to say that a lot of businesses are "afraid" of  
getting the data any faster. I've even heard it said that it might  
"break" their computer if it goes too fast. As in "our computer  
couldn't handle that".

Of course, I'm just playing the devils advocate here.

But I'm wondering what sort of capability you are thinking about  
exactly when there appears to be so much stuff out there that already  
is or is purporting to do it.

Maybe you are just hoping to get UBL going a bit faster than it  
already is. If so, then that's fine and I can easily go along with  
your reasoning.

True P2p is still a challenge.... people would need to know what the  
exact business benefits would be before they would throw any cash at it.

As mentioned above, there are probably many solutions which come very  
close in place already.

Regards

David






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