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Subject: Re: [ubl-dev] A few perhaps actually usable XForms for UBL


Maybe soon I'll try the cross-industry CEFACT e-Invoice
(not quite standardised yet) too - looks very similar to UBL
but more industry and tax detail in it perhaps. Not sure
what a subset of it suitable for XForms might look like. I
helped it's alignment with UBL in early days and it's nice to
see it getting to this stage.
http://www.unece.org/cefact/documents/xml-schema.zip
http://www.unece.org//cefact/prs/pr07_trd02e.pdf

Now it seems an easier than ever step to go from EDI to
XML.

Perhaps trying to create some XForms for it will produce
good feedback to pass to CEFACT. Not sure how to do that
though.

All the best

Steve


>>> "Stephen Green" <stephen.green@bristol.gov.uk> 05/04/07 16:45:56 >>>
Excellent feedback, many thanks indeed Sacha. I'll make
that change to /tmp. Hopefully folk will notice where the
file is being saved (clearly noted) and go get it if necessary.
Eventually I hope to have dynamics built in to allow the
destination target url to be under end-user control, if that
seems advisable. IBM have published some notes on how to
do this. Otherwise there is hopefully not too much know-how
required in folk saving and editing the form to change the
action, etc.

Regarding empty fields, I'd be so happy if UBL would relax
that rule. I'm not convinced it's an actual business 
requirement, even if in certain situations it is considered
best practise. Where there is processing after creating the
XML maybe the empty elements can be pruned at that point
but that puts a special requirement on the server which seems
to go against SOA best practise. Relaxing the rule seems like
a good compromise to me.

All the best

Steve

>>> Sacha Schlegel <sacha@schlegel.li> 05/04/07 16:29:37 >>>
Steve, 

Same problem on another Debian machine ... but it is working on a spare
OpenSuse 10.2.

The 'save' is not working as you try to save to /home directory ...
normally a regular user does not have the right to write to that
directory.

I suggest you change it to /tmp where normally everyone has the right to
write. Unfortunately the ~ (bash completion to home directory) does not
work so I guess /tmp is a good choice for now (beware the directory gets
normally wiped when the system restarts)

Regards

Sacha

PS: Now I also understand why you want to prune out the empty fields,
because if the user does not fill out the non required fields they will
be empty elements in the output XML.

Am Donnerstag, den 05.04.2007, 15:15 +0100 schrieb Stephen Green:
> Hi Sacha
> 
> Maybe it *is* platform dependant: http://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=28477 
> 
> Sorry if it is. I hope it doesn't take 'em long to fix.
> 
> LiveCD?
> 
> All the best
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> >>> Sacha Schlegel <sacha@schlegel.li> 05/04/07 09:16:44 >>>
> Hi Steve, others
> 
> anyone successfully tried one of these XForms with Mozilla Firefox 2.0.x
> and Moziall XForm 0.7.0.1 on GNU/Linux?
> 
> I cannot imagine that it is platform dependent ... but they do not
> render properly for me.
> 
> Thanks Sacha
> 
> Am Mittwoch, den 04.04.2007, 15:05 -0600 schrieb
> stephen.green@systml.co.uk: 
> > Greetings Folks
> > 
> > I've just added a few possibly quite usable XForms
> > (continually updated and open via sourceForge)
> > to the SystML website page at
> > 
> > http://www.systml.co.uk/content/view/43/54/ 
> > 
> > If anyone has Mozilla/Firefox/Sea Monkey and the
> > Mozilla XForms extension amd can try them (or even
> > use them, although Mozilla still say their extension
> > is not production ready as such yet) then I'd be
> > happy to hear any feedback - as long as it isn't
> > too strongly worded :-)
> > 
> > They aren't expected to work in other XForms
> > readers unless there is adequate CSS support included
> > too, sorry. They might work with other types of XForms
> > processors but I've not had much success with what
> > I've tried so far (not sure if that's the XForms
> > or the processors being too fussy as yet).
> > 
> > Sorry it's just Catalogue, RequestForQuotation
> > and Quotation so far. Others likely to follow and
> > I guess I'll just keep adding them to the same site
> > (calling it BusinessWeb for now). Maybe the Catalogue
> > support will also develop into a SystML2 subset as
> > well - don't yet have sourcing subsets, just the other
> > procurement documents.
> > 
> > I guess there's always room for more developers on
> > the sourceForge project too if anyone fancies doing
> > some XForms under GPL (maybe LGPL too at some point,
> > not sure about creative commons though).
> > 
> > All the best
> > 
> > Stephen Green
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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