Re: [ubl-dev] DeliveryLocation & DelivertyParty

[Danny Gaethofs <dgaethofs@yahoo.com>]

Tim and Others,

 

I have been investigating this more thorougly and come to the following conclusions:

 

Delivery.DeliveryLocation.ID, Description, Address should be used to present the actual point of delivery - the place where the goods need to go IN all situations - drop shipments, subcontracting (delivery to another supplier) or delivery to a warehouse .

 

Delivery.DeliveryParty.Identification, Name, Contact should be used to identify the organisation that takes legal ownership.

Here I believe that in all cases this organisation is the company placing the order with the supplier regardless whether the supplier needs to ship it to an end-customer or to another supplier that adds value to the item.

 

regrds

Danny

From: Tim McGrath <tim.mcgrath@documentengineeringservices.com>
To: Danny Gaethofs <dgaethofs@yahoo.com>
Cc: UBL-Dev <ubl-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>; "'jostein.fromyr@edisys.no' Frømyr" <jostein.fromyr@edisys.no>
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 2:12 AM
Subject: Re: [ubl-dev] DeliveryLocation & DelivertyParty

Some good questions but they appear to be aimed at BII rather than UBL in general.

I will copy in the BII chair so he can pass this on to that group.

Jostein,

Danny has posted this to the UBl-dev mailing list but I think your group may have the better response.

On 11/09/2013, at 10:50 PM, Danny Gaethofs wrote:

Dear all,
 
The CEN/BII guidelines says:BII uses Delivery Location (rather than Delivery Address) to specify a point of Delivery.
 
 The Delivery Party is the business party who is responsible for receiving the, and taking legal ownership of
the delivered Item. The Postal Address or Physical Location of the Delivery Party cannot be assumed to be
the point to which the Delivery is to be made; the latter is described in Delivery Location.
 
An example is given of the hospital where the goods are delivered to a private citizen.
 
Here the hospital is the DeliveryParty and the private citizen the DeliveryLocation.
 
I am wondering how do you use the DeliveryLocation and DeliveryParty when the legal owner is the same as the recipient ?
Do you then use DeliveryParty.PhysicalLocation ?
 
 
How do you handle subcontracting ?
When you order component with a vendor that need to be shipped to another vendor that applies additional value added work on the item (for example painting or coating)  how to you deal with DeliveryParty and DeliveryLocation .
 
D consider the DeliveryParty to be your own organization and the DeliveryLocation the address of the second vendor ?
 
Do you know whether CEN/BII  - PEPPOL is able to handle DeliveryAddress instead of DeliveryLocation and DeliveryParty ?
Some countries have or are implementing DeliveryAddress  instead of the prefered DeliveryLocation and DeliveryParty.
 
 
regards
Danny

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Regards 

Tim McGrath
tim.mcgrath@documentengineeringservices.com

Fremantle, Western Australia
http://www.documentengineeringservices.com/