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Subject: Re: [ubl-dev] UBL Invoice: Where to put SEPA Creditor ID?


For persons use Person identity.
For business entities use the the normal Party ID or the legal CompanyID.

Anyway I am pretty sure Banks are requiring a phisical person for direct debit, at least in Italy.

----- Messaggio originale -----
Da: "ujay68" <ujay68@gmail.com>
A: "Roberto" <roberto@javest.com>
Cc: ubl-dev@lists.oasis-open.org
Inviato: Giovedì, 5 dicembre 2013 23:18:00
Oggetto: Re: [ubl-dev] UBL Invoice: Where to put SEPA Creditor ID?


Roberto, 


thanks again. Starting from your suggestion, I tried to dig into the documentation: 


For the Party/Person element , the documentation says "A person associated with this party." and for the Person/IdentityDocumentReference element , "A reference to a document that can precisely identify this person (e.g., a driver's license)." So, at least from a documentation point of view, this looks like it's for real persons only. 


What about using Party/PartyLegalEntity ("A description of this party as a legal entity.") and PartyLegalEntity/CompanyID ("An identifier for the party as registered within a company registration scheme.")? 


Would this also be a suitable place for the Creditor ID? Or would be more in the spirit of UBL to put that Creditor ID in the two different places, depending on the legal status of the seller (which might actually not be known, from a system point of view). 


Best regards, 


John 





2013/12/5 Roberto < roberto@javest.com > 


Hello John, 
yes I confirm the Creditor ID is assigned to each creditor once. 
So now I remember that the requirement was more in connection with a legal person and for that purpose we preferred to improve the Person ABIE that is also found in any Party and of course in the PayeeParty in the root of the invoice document. 

Under the Person ABIE you will find the IdentityDocumentReference which is intended for any legal identity assigned to a person like the Creditor ID. 


Best regards 

Roberto Cisternino, JAVEST 

UBL ITLSC co-chair 



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