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Subject: RE: [ubl-dev] RE: Additional request from TC re: UBL Naming and Design Rules V3.0 public review - ends February 10th


Ken,

Repurposing an OASIS TC artefact and elevating it to a broader role of course makes sense.

However - I'm not sure procedurally the UBL TC can make that call. Usual OASIS requires a formal proposal and such to create that work product and invite full member participation.

Plus as I noted - there are many other candidates out there - such as NIEM and HL7 - also based on CCTS / ISO11179 - that would need to be considered when developing such as uber NDR for general purposes across OASIS members producing business schema.

Thanks, David

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [ubl-dev] RE: Additional request from TC re: UBL Naming and
Design Rules V3.0 public review - ends February 10th
From: "G. Ken Holman" <gkholman@CraneSoftwrights.com>
Date: Wed, January 27, 2016 11:45 am
To: tc-announce@lists.oasis-open.org,members@lists.oasis-open.org,,
ubl@lists.oasis-open.org,ubl-dev@lists.oasis-open.org,,
ubl-comment@lists.oasis-open.org, Chet Ensign
<chet.ensign@oasis-open.org>

It was my intention not to respond to any comment until the end of
the comment period, but I felt it important to respond to this
particular early comment in case other readers would be misled as to
the committee's need to ask about the title.

At 2016-01-27 09:04 -0700, David RR Webber (XML) wrote:
>What is wrong with current title?

It has been interpreted that the NDR can only be used to produce UBL artefacts.

>It seems to precisely state what the document does.

That's exactly the problem, it doesn't. It has been interpreted by
some readers as applying only to UBL and has not been interpreted
simply as coming from the UBL TC.

It happens to be true that these NDR were used when creating UBL, but
these rules were also used when creating the OASIS Business Document
Envelope (BDE), which also was modeled using CCTS 2.01.

Anyone modeling their documents using CCTS 2.01 has the choice of
using these NDR to create artefacts if they find the properties of
the artefacts are attractive to their use of business documents.

There is another UBL committee work product, a Committee Note, being
created that details the application of these NDR specifically to
create the UBL artefacts. That is because such is out of scope of
this NDR document.

>I do not understand why a UBL document would be renamed to be
>something else -

Because the current title is not being properly understood by readers
of prior drafts of the document.

>how would people then know what the UBL naming and design is, if its
>not called UBL?

By being more precise to be titled as an NDR applicable to any use of
CCTS 2.01 or ebXML part 5 for modeling. That is the subject material
of this work product. As indicated, there are no proposed changes to
the body of the document, only the title.

Nowhere in this NDR document does it talk about the actual creation
of the UBL artefacts, it is only a set of naming and design rules for
creating a set of artefacts from any model of CCTS 2.01 / ebXML Part 5.

The current NDR title is being interpreted by some readers as
encompassing the content of both committee work products, whereas an
improved title for the NDR would not give the incorrect implication
that the NDR can only be used for UBL artefacts and for nothing
else. As mentioned above, another OASIS committee has already used
these NDR to create a set of artefacts that are not UBL artefacts.

The title is exactly the source of the problem that some readers have
regarding the scope of the use of the document.

And so the committee is soliciting feedback regarding a more
appropriate title of this work.

. . . . . . . . . Ken


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