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Subject: RE: [ubl-dev] Orders with a different delivery address then the final customer.


Stephen,

 

The OrginatorCustomerParty is not always the same as where the goods need to be delivered.

We are dealing with Consumers that are placing orders. So if I order goods, but want them delivered to a petrolstation near to my house, they are not the same

Or if I place an order to surprise you then you will be the “FinalEndCustomer” .. and I am the OriginatorCustomerParty

 

So the OriginatorCustomerParty is already used for those cases …

 

Kees D.

 

Van: Stephen D Green [mailto:stephengreenubl@gmail.com]
Verzonden: woensdag 19 april 2017 15:33
Aan: Duvekot, Kees <kduvekot@Wehkamp.nl>
CC: ubl-dev@lists.oasis-open.org
Onderwerp: Re: [ubl-dev] Orders with a different delivery address then the final customer.

 

OriginatorCustomerParty was intended for a very similar purpose. Is it near enough?

 

 (I was in local gov at the time and we had schools making purchases and taking final delivery but the local authority was the buyer - this is the original order example scenario)

On Wednesday, 19 April 2017, Duvekot, Kees <kduvekot@wehkamp.nl> wrote:

Dear UBL people ,

 

I have a questions about the Order document and how to use it in specific situation.

 

We have the following use case:

 

We would like to order various items from a supplier. And we want the supplier to package the items already together and label them for the final end customer that is going to receive the goods. (ie CrossDock or some similar name)

However the supplier should not deliver those packaged goods directly to the final end customer, but to a different location from where we will arrange the transportation to the final end customer.

 

In an ascii diagram it looks like this:

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        

                                  +------------------+                                                                                   

                  order(s)        |                  |                                                                                  

           +----------------------|   BuyerParty     |                                                                                  

           |                      |                  |                                                                                  

           |                      +------------------+             +------------------+                                                 

           |                                           individual  |                  |                                                 

           |                                    +------------------>Final End Customer|                                                 

           |                                    |       packages   |                  |                                                  

           |                                    |                  +------------------+                                                 

           |                                    |                                                                                        

  +--------v--------+             +-------------|----+             +------------------+                                                 

  |                 |   grouped   |                  | individual  |                  |                                                 

  | SupplierParty   -------------->  DeliveryParty   -------------->Final End Customer|                                                 

  |                 |  packages   |                  |  packages   |                  |                                                 

  +-----------------+             +-------------|----+             +------------------+                                                 

                                                |                                                                                       

                                                |                  +------------------+                                                 

                                                |      individual  |                  |                                                 

                                                +------------------>Final End Customer|                                                 

                                                        packages   |                  |                                                 

                                                                   +------------------+                                                  

                                                                                                                                         

                                                                                                                                         

      ---------------------------------     ----------------------------------------                                                    

         Supplier arranges transport            Buyer arranges transport                                                                 

                                                                                                                                         

                                                                                                                                         

                                                                                                                                         

So what should we put in the UBL Order document between the BuyerParty and the SupplierParty to achieve this?

 

I think we should send a separate order per Final End Customer so that the Supplier knows which lines should be group together in a single package.

The DeliveryParty in the UBL Order document (maindoc:Order\cac:Delivery\cac:DeliveryParty) should point to the location/ID etc where that package should be delivered to.

 

But where do I specify the address details for the Final End Customer that should be printed on the packages?

 

Within UBL there exists and element called cac:FinalDeliveryParty, but that is only available under the cac:Consignment element .. but that means “burring” it very deep into the delivery element:

(maindoc:Order\cac:Delivery\cac:Shipment\cac:Consignment\cac:FinalDeliveryParty)

 

That does not look like an ideal situation to put it all the way there …

So what other suggestions are there?

 

Kees Duvekot

 

                                                                                                                        

                                                                                                                                         

                                                                                                                                         

                                                                                                                                         

 



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