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Subject: [ubl-lcsc] ISSUE: Outstanding discussion points on BIE's
DISCUSSION POINTS FOR TUESDAYS CALL:
Discussion of Element Naming and their
definitions. The following list are BIE's, their definitions and comments
that have been made by members of UBL LCSC. I would like to discuss these
points during our call tomorrow morning and see if we can't put some of them
away. Thanks.
Lisa
1)
BIE: Shipment. Carrier. Identifier
DEFINITION: the identifier assigned by the agency
to the carrier. This identifies the carrier being used for this stage of the
shipment.
COMMENT: This is overlapping some terms - a carrier
can identify a shipment, and a carrier can be identified. This is unclear in the
BIE Dictionary Entry Name.
2)
BIE: Pricing. Basis. Quantity
DEFINITION: contains a quantity and unit of
measurement to which the unit price applies if that quantity is greater than.
For example if a pricing scheme were $50/500 lbs, then 500 lbs would be
contained in this element. This can also be used, when the
UnitOfMeasurem
COMMENTS: I don't like the idea of combining these items unless we are specifying it as an aggregation AND
AJS: New definition: "Contains the quantity
and unit of measurement on which the unit price is based. For example, if
the pricing scheme were $50/500 lbs, this would contain 500 (quantity) and lbs
(unit of measure)."
3) BIE: Sales Condition. Condition.
Identifier
DEFINITION: identifies a condition within the set
of sales conditions that apply.
COMMENT: This is confusing - is this at the point of delivery for a sale, or a POS, or a pre-condition on the entity that can be sold to? AND
"Suggest add ""s"" to ""Sales Condition"" in the
name. Strictly speaking this should be named Item Sales Conditions etc, as
there are probably Transaction Sales Conditions as well in the overall world
model!"
4) BIE: Item Identifier. Extension. Text
DEFINITION: "an additional extension in free text
form to 'specialise' the identification of a product or service.
An example of this would be a color code for a specific product." COMMENT: All discuss:This overlaps the function of 'Physical Attribute' and is less system processable. AND
This would be an attribute - no in extension text
as it would not be searchable - typically they use features like color with
codes so they can be reused (and not scraping for matching free-form
text).
5)
BIE: Item. Final Recipient.
Details
DEFINITION: information that directly relates to
the person or organization who will ultimately receive the item.
COMMENT: "All to discuss: This is about the Line Item and not the Item" 6) BIE: Item. From Catalog.
Indicator
DEFINITION: an indicator that denotes whether or
not the item was ordered from a catalog.
COMMENT: "All to discuss: This is about the
Line Item and not the Item"
7)
BIE: Address. Identifier
DEFINITION: a unique identifier given to a specific
address within a scheme of registered addresses.
COMMENT: "All to discuss: Are there any such schemes and if so what are they?" AND
How does this overlap by a type of address?
Home, office, organization, etc. (UBL000033A). Is there really a clear
distinction between a location and an address?
8) BIE: Contract. Identifier
DEFINITION: identifies a contract by a unique
and single identifier known to all the parties concerned.
COMMENT: Maybe 'known to all" is a bit OTT
although it really is implied or we would have separate [party
role]'s.Contract.Id names. Should we have these as, for example, we have
Buyer/SellerItemId?
AND
Multple contracts can apply to a transaction or to
parties that transact together. We found it to be M-M.
9A) CREDIT CARD all following: BIE: Credit Card. Authorisation.
Text
DEFINITION: Under review:
COMMENT: Mike, NO SUCH THING, according to my
Card friends There can be a transaction number and in limited
circumstances, I have seen an authorization number that an entity has to record
when a card transaction is approved (I don't see it used that often
anymore).
9B)
BIE: CreditCard. Details
DEFINITION: information that directly relates to a
credit card, a small plastic card issued by a financial institution, bank or
building society, allowing the holder to make purchases on
credit.
COMMENT: Why wouldn't you have card details
and use UBL000155B identify the card type. Therefore, you have Card.
Details. If so you have to generisize the definition.
9C)
BIE: Payment Means. Credit Card.
Details
DEFINITION: Old definition: the credit or debit
card that is being used for the payment.
COMMENT: "Name & definition conflict. Credit
card in name, credit or debit card in definition. The data model is weak
in this area: I am reworking it [Mike]" This is like
UBL000150.
9D)
BIE: Credit Card. Customer. Identifier
DEFINITION: Old definition: the customer
reference number. This is used to enable transmission of customer specific
information with the card. (Under review)
COMMENT: Mike, "The name suggests a
misconception about what this is, when you read the definition. Mike to
review with Card people."
9E) BIE: Credit Card. Expiry. Date
DEFINITION: the date up to which the card is valid
.
COMMENT: Definition is only acceptable if we
re-model a generic 'Card' which can have sub-types of 'credit', 'debit'
etc
AND
Agreed - see previous comment on using Card
Type.
9F)
BIE: Credit Card. Holder. Name
DEFINITION: the name of the holder of the
card.
COMMENT: Definition is only acceptable if we
re-model a generic 'Card' which can have sub-types of 'credit', 'debit'
etc
AND
Agreed. See previous comments.
9G)
BIE: Credit Card. Identifier
DEFINITION: the identifying number of the
card.
Synonym: Card Number"
COMMENT: New definition is only acceptable if we
re-model a generic 'Card' which can have sub-types of 'credit', 'debit'
etc
AND
Use Card Type. Same comment as
previously.
9H)
BIE: Credit Card. Issuer.
Identifier
DEFINITION: the type of card used as a means
of payment.
COMMENT: Definition is only acceptable if we
re-model a generic 'Card' which can have sub-types of 'credit', 'debit' etc.
Name should not say "Credit"
AND
Agreed. In addition, the Card issuer ID is not the
same as the type of credit card - unless you are saying Visa, Master Card or
xxxx vs. Debit, Credit.
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