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Subject: [ubl-lcsc] Minute from last few meetings


All,
  Here are copies of the last three meetings minutes.  Please let me
know if
you have any corrections.
Cheers,
Bill
Title: UBL LCSC Meeting Minutes

UBL LCSC Minutes

Tuesday - 4 March 2003

Attendees: Tim McGrath, Lisa Seaburg, Marion Royal, Bill Meadows, Monica Martin, Sally Chan, Kurt Conrad, Anne Hendry, Peter Yim and Debbie Quezadaz.

1. Welcome and appointment of secretary to take minutes. - Anne will take minutes.

2. Acceptance of previous minutes - We did not have a quorum, therefore this item was postponed.

3. Work Plan for 1p00 release.

NOTE: There are only 6 weeks between now and the review cutoff date.

The revised schedule has now been posted. It is available at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-lcsc/200303/msg00005.html.

  • Analysis report (Sue)
  • Modeling report (Mike)

Both Sue and Mike are traveling.

Tim will follow up with them regarding the white paper that Mike is creating and the analysis modeling work that Sue is driving. These deliverables are due this week so we may need to push that schedule back.

QA Team Report - Marion

  • 0p70 review comments to date We have received several new comments in the past week. Bill will put those in the working directory.
  • HL7 comment disposition (Tim) Tim is reviewing the previous HL7 comments.
  • LC and NDR review processes NDR's timeframe requires that they review NDR comments earlier than LCSC had planned to review LCSC comments. Tim is ok with giving NDR comments straight to NDR, then, so they can meet their target, which is to produce the UBL Naming and Design Rules 1.0 Committee Specification, by the end of the F2F.

We will separate the ndr-specific comments onto a different page of the comment spreadsheet so they can be handled by the NDR QA Team within their timeframe according to their own process. LCSC will not need to be concerned with the NDR comments. Since Lisa is on both teams she will facilitate this process. Her presence on both teams will be especially helpful if some comments overlap the boundaries of both SCs. Lisa will ask the NDR QA Team to join the Friday LCSC QA calls.

Tim mentioned that the OASIS process has specific guidelines and that anything sent out under the TC umbrella will be voted on by the entire TC - there are no provisions in the OASIS process for recognizing separate subcommittees as independent entities. The NDR release will be a UBL specification and the constituency will be entire TC, so this needs to be considered.

Lisa reviewed the latest process as discussed in last week's QA meeting. For details, see http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-lcsc/200303/msg00001.html The minutes will have a link to the speadsheet .

- Marion asked to have the comment category 'Editorial' added.

4. Reports on other UBL SCs

- NDR (Lisa) We've given ouselves a timefrom of the next 7 weeks to finalize the NDR documents and review through the NDR SC and then present these to the UBL TC. Not certain if the review is planned for the beginning, middle, or end of the F2F, but we are trying to finish the sections before the F2F.

Tim mentioned that the new LCSC schedule has a tenative pathway for the 1.0 Specification to go to public review in early June. If this is the same timeframe as the NDR schedule, then it might be useful to have the NDR team review the LCSC schedule. The OASIS process allows the TC to decide when to send things out for review. The minimum review cycle length, though, is 30 days.

- Liaison (Anne/Tim) UIG has developed an extensive collection of transaction sets for managing deregulated energy and implementation guidelines and, more importantly, preliminary XML documents. They thought it would be productive to review those with someone deeply familiar with the UBL framework. Spend 1/2 - 1 day with someone reviewing UBL and how it might be used in their context, how it relates to the work they are doing.

The meeting is concurrent with the X12 meeting in Nashville, June 1-3. Lisa would be willing to go but there and it is close to where she lives. Tim will work with Jon, Lisa, and Leon to see what can be worked out.

5. Other Business

Proposal for UBL Ontology Project (Peter/Kurt)

See http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-lcsc/200303/msg00006.html for related information on the proposed ontology group project w/r/t the UBL 0p70 release.

The original ontology discussion began within LCSC. Several members of the UBL TC are participants and the Ontology group encourages participation of UBL TC members. A recent proposal has been made to take the UBL Library and put it in a formal ontology to learn about ontologies, about developing lifecycle sytems. Definitely want expertise in the team - those contributing to the uml effort and modeling would be closest to this. We hope members from LCSC and NDR can participate and eventually have UBL ready for the semantic web. Now that UBL has body of work that is stable this is a good time to do this. It overlaps and complements the work Mike is doing in the modeling area and merging with the context work. Perhaps this proposed work can focus and gel the modeling work. This is a great community and we would all benefit from collaboration in this area. The Ontology group would particulrly like to have participants with slightly differing viewpoints.

Do we have the latest 0p65 comments?

Tim to check his files for latest version.

Action Items

20030304-01: Tim will contact Mike to get delivery date for Modeling report

20030304-02: Tim will contact Sue to get delivery date for Analysis report

20030304-03: Bill M will put new comments in comments directory on OASIS server

20030304-05: Lisa/Anne will move ndr comments to a separate spreadsheet page

20030304-06: Lisa ask NDR QA Team to join LC QA Friday calls.

20030304-07: Lisa/Tim: NDR team to review LC schedule for alignment

20030304-08: Tim/Lisa work with Jon/Leon on attending UIG meeting

Next Meetings

There will be a QA call on Friday 8-10am PST.

LCSC- Tuesday March 11th 8-10am PST - normal call in number.

Title: UBL LCSC Meeting Minutes

UBL LCSC Minutes

Tuesday - 11 February 2003

Attendees: Tim McGrath, Lisa Seaburg, Marion Royal, Bill Meadows, Monica Martin, Sally Chan, Jon Bosak, Anne Hendry, and Debbie Quezadaz.

1. Welcome and appointment of secretary to take minutes. - Bill will take minutes.

2. Acceptance of previous minutes - We did not have a quorum, therefore this item was postponed.

3. QA Team Report

Marion reported that the examples were clean, and that we would not be updating Ken's documents to reflect our changes.

We will not provide immediate reaction to comments. Bill to take Action Item (AI) to email list, ask that all comments be sent to the Technical Editor (Bill), and please use the rtf form.

Anne would like to see other option to the rtf form. She finds it difficult to use. We discussed the option of a html 'web form' on the OASIS server. Lisa and Anne to talk to Karl and inquire on this.

To date there have been no comments from the Liaison group. Next meeting is March 3rd. Anne to follow up with them.

The QA team has put together the tools they need and will begin to work through comments this Friday.

Jon reported that when he unzipped the new copy of the release he got two index files. One that showed up above the directory, and one in the right spot. To be investigated.

The comments file will be viewable to the outside world. All LCSC members should review them periodically. The minutes will have a link to the speadsheet .

4. Work Plan for 1p00 release

There are several small tasks to be completed before the Face to Face.

Comments will be coming in to QA until April 14th.

Analysis needed on extending scope, CEFACT groups, comments, additional instances, tools, etc. In the next few weeks we need to draft positions on what we want changed (ie. CEFACT transportation group instances). These should be the equivalent of position papers.

Sue to report on progress of the Analysis team tasks.

Mike to create draft on Customization process modelling. The Schema generation tools are the first priority for customization.

Tim reviewed the OASIS rules for production release. Jon to review also.

We need the specification to be voted on by the entire TC. We will need a public review period after the current review cycle. The current one is not our public review. The review period must be at least thirty days.

The current schedule is for release at the end of September.

Jon will review with Karl to make sure our understanding is correct and we are on track.

5. Other Business

How do we deal with the HL7 comments?

Tim to try to put into a form that will fit the spreadsheet.

Do we have the latest 0p65 comments?

Tim to check his files for latest version.

Action Items

1. Bill - send comment email to the list.

2. Lisa & Anne - Check with Karl about web form on OASIS server.

3. Anne - follow up with Liaison group for feedback.

4. Sue - report Analysis team statuses.

5. Mike - report Modeling team statuses.

6. Jon - verify release process with Karl.

7. Tim - get HL7 comments into spreadsheet.

8. Tim - verify that we have the latest 0p65 comments.

Next Meetings

There will be a QA call on Friday 8-10am PST.

LCSC- Tuesday March 4th 8-10am PST - normal call in number.

Title: UBL LCSC Meeting Minutes

UBL LCSC Minutes

Tuesday - 11 March 2003

Attendees: Tim McGrath, Lisa Seaburg, Marion Royal, Bill Meadows,Sue Probert, Chin Chee-Kai, Anne Hendry.

1. Welcome and appointment of secretary to take minutes. - Anne will take minutes.

2. Acceptance of previous minutes - We did not have a quorum, therefore this item was postponed.

Previous action items:

20030304-01: Tim will contact Mike to get delivery date for Modeling report status: Done - Mike will report next Tuesday.

20030304-02: Tim will contact Sue to get delivery date for Analysis report Sttaus: Done - Sue will report next Tuesday.

20030304-03: Bill M will put new comments in comments directory on OASIS server Status: Done.

20030304-04: Tim will review HL7 comments Status: In progress.

20030304-05: Lisa/Anne will move ndr comments to a separate spreadsheet page Status: Lisa talk to NDR QA Team.

20030304-06: Lisa ask NDR QA Team to join LC QA Friday calls. Status: Done.

20030304-07: Lisa/Tim: NDR team to review LC schedule for alignment Status: Lisa will put this on agenda for tomorrow's NDR meeting.

20030304-08: Tim/Lisa work with Jon/Leon on attending UIG meeting Status: In progress. Have a tentative. Lisa will talk to Leon.

3. Work Plan for 1p00 release.

NOTE: There are only 4-1/2 weeks between now and the review cutoff date.

The revised schedule has now been posted. It is available at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-lcsc/200303/msg00024.html

  • Analysis report (Sue)
  • Modeling report (Mike)

Sue reported that there will be progress on Analysis at UN/CEFACT meeting this week. Next week should have something written to look at. This is the case for the Modeling report as well.

  • QA Team report (Marion)
    - 0p70 review comments to date

    We have received several new comments in the past week.

    The OASIS server is down so they wonn't be put up right away.

    Bill send comments directly to Anne for now.

    Bill will send today's minutes directly to list (Anne send to Bill).

    - CEN/ISS

    Tim noted that we have received some comments from Anders Rundgren

    and Jörg Walther, members of CEN/ISS.

    - Bill Burcham

    We have responded to Bill Burcham regarding the disposition of his comments. With this OASIS server issue, we probably won't see this on the server until the end of the week, but Anne can enter it into the spreadsheet for Friday's QA call if Bill M. sends them via email instead.

    - Chin Chee-Kai

    Chin Che-Kai's participation has been extremently helpful and we welcome his continued contributions throughout the review period.

4. Reports on other UBL SCs

  • NDR (Lisa)
  • NDR is in the midst of putting their NDR 1.0 release together; contains work to date on modnamver, embedded docs, local/global, etc. Lisa will send latest draft to list.

    The code list rules document was sent to list. Lisa will resend.

    Lisa will also send CountryCode and CurrencyCode. Please review.

5. Other business

Updates to OASIS:

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-lcsc/200302/msg00072.html

Changes to OASIS Membership system (Kavi) will replace our current interfaces. It will establish new discussion groups, web interfaces fo depositing stuff on web site, Will tie in OASIS membership to committees. It begins this week. OASIS is doing a batch rollover of current comments to new structure. This should be done by the end of the week. This is a customized application for .orgs, and allows for things like on-line balloting.

Tim and Lisa will investigate what this currently means to the UBL team, and how it fits our current processes.

There will some notification soon.

Open Action Items

20030304-04: Tim to review HL7 comments

20030311-01: Lisa to talk to NDR team to identify NDR-specific comments

20030311-02: Lisa to put LCSC schedule on agenda for tomorrow's NDR meeting.

20030311-03: Bill to forward comments to Anne until OASIS server is accessible.

20030311-04: Lisa will send latest draft of NDR document to list.

20030311-05: Lisa will send CodeList Rules and CountryCode and CurrencyCode to list.

20030311-06: Lisa/Tim to investigate impact of OASIS move to Kavi.

- The next LCSC meeting will be Tuesday, 18 March 2003, at the same time with same call information.

- There will be a QA call on Friday at the usual time.



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