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Subject: Re: [ubl-lcsc] Re: Position Paper on List Containers
On Sat, 30 Aug 2003, Anthony B. Coates wrote: >>This doesn't suggest any kind of problem with lists, though, >>it simply points out that one of the naming rules has the wrong >>effect when applied to lists, and needs to be changed. It depends on what judicial criteria you are using to carry out this assessment of whether lists/containers are useful: assume a new idea is useful until proven otherwise, or assume no value added until proven otherwise. On a personal view, I haven't insisted on proponents to illustrate with concrete proofs of efficiency (viewing ease is a subjective criteria to debate and that will end only in bloodshed). So I hope you won't start suggesting that "doesn't suggest any kind of problem with lists" means we should accept it until proven otherwise, The very dubious claim about advantages of lists so far has been that there ARE advantages, without proofs and that we shouldn't doubt it. Subjectively, the "feel" of having containers is perhaps right, just like we might be inclined to feel that the earth is flat from our own horizons. On a probably unfair basis, the team went ahead to see if perhaps containers were indeed useful. If that hadn't been true, there is no need to even try out "selected list" model, since that isn't required by the container rules. If that hadn't been true, there's no need to perform on-the-fly fixing of naming clashes at schema level brought about by the rules in order to generate sample instances. What the paper has found has been that there are no visible advantages as claimed. >>It would be wrong to abandon lists purely because the >>naming rules have an unexpectedly perverse effect. I think what would be wrong is to allow any doubtful areas of naming to infiltrate into the designs that eventually lead to systematic incompatibilities and naming clashes. If naming is such a casual thing, we probably don't need NDR. Best Regards, Chin Chee-Kai SoftML Tel: +65-6820-2979 Fax: +65-6743-7875 Email: cheekai@SoftML.Net http://SoftML.Net/
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