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Subject: Re: [ubl-lcsc] [code] ISO considering charging for commercial use of code lists


I don't believe that this is a problem for us, at least not yet, because the
two key ISO code lists that we need are co-published by ISO and UN/ECE and
available free from UN/ECE.

These are a) the 3166 ISO Country Code List which is published by UN/ECE as
UN/ECE Recommendation No 3 and b) the ISO 4217 Currency Code list which is
published by UN/ECE as UN/ECE Recommendation No 9. The UN/ECE versions are
subsets of the full ISO lists bit nevertheless they do provide all that we
require for ebusiness so we don't need to pay for them.

BTW The UOM, units of measurements, code list is published by UN/ECE and not
by ISO. This list  is UN/ECE Recommendation No 20 and is therefore free too.

Are there any others that we use in UBL so far?



Sue Probert
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----- Original Message -----
From: "G. Ken Holman" <gkholman@CraneSoftwrights.com>
To: "UBL LCSC" <ubl-lcsc@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 3:01 PM
Subject: [ubl-lcsc] [code] ISO considering charging for commercial use of
code lists

> Good morning, folks,
> A contribution to XML Dev this morning by David Megginson raised awareness
> of a recommendation within ISO to charge software developers and
> resellers for the use of ISO code lists.
> I cannot find the actual recommendation wording, but the wording is cited
> in the following document:
>    http://www.ncits.org/archive/2003/in031008/in031008.htm
> The official response from W3C is copied in the following post:
>    http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2003JulSep/0213
> Should UBL perhaps come up with a formal position of some kind since we
> would expect implementers to be including code lists in commercial product
> based on the UBL schema fragments we've been working on?
> Is anyone aware of where one can find the *actual* wording of the ISO
> recommendation so as to ensure we understand what they are asking for
> without relying on another organization's citation of what they are
> asking?  I hate to be knee-jerk in my reaction if the citation is out of
> context, but I think the earlier something is said about this the better.
> In the same email exchange I discovered a separate post has been made to
> the Canadian member body list ... in which the following articles are
>    http://www.businessweek.com/technology/cnet/stories/5079256.htm
>    http://news.com.com/2100-1032-5079256.html
> I will personally be bringing this up to the Canadian member body as an
> important issue of concern ... it might help to bring this up to the
> awareness of other country member bodies.  I'll undertake to lead the
> Canadian discussion and will report back here with any resources I find or
> any conclusions we make.
> ..................... Ken
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