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Subject: Re: [ubl-lcsc] UBL Schema 1.0-alpha draft-8


At 2003-10-03 14:58 -0700, jon.bosak@sun.com wrote:
>| >I'd suppose as long as our production process
>| >takes codelists from UN/ECE site, and as long as UN/ECE site
>| >states:
>| >
>| >http://www.unece.org/etrades/uncopyright.htm
>| >
>| >(with particular reference to clause 2a)
>| >
>| >then I personally believe I would respect that.
>|
>| Sue, I think what Chee-Kai raises above does, indeed, prevent us
>| from using the files.  I recall in our telephone conversations
>| that it was your intuition that the documents were totally
>| exploitable ... can you find any exemptions to the above clause
>| that would allow us to work with these files?
>
>The UN/ECE position is in my opinion no longer relevant to this
>discussion.

Except that ISO does not provide all of these three files in XML format but 
UN/ECE does.

>The relevant policy is contained in the announcement
>issued by ISO this week.

Yes, I cited the same article, and I do note your excerpt:

>    ISO does not subsequently charge a fee for use of the codes in
>    the software product and has no plans for doing so.
>
>The way we "use the codes" in a UBL software product is to include
>an enumerated list of those codes in the appropriate UBL schemas
>so that that schema-aware software can validate against them.
>Does anyone understand the ISO policy promulgated 30 September
>2003 in a way that would contradict this interpretation?

I wasn't questioning ISO's policy of *using* the codes, I was questioning 
the use of the UN/ECE files in which the codes are found.  At this time the 
codes need to be sourced in an XML format with which the stylesheet I wrote 
can obtain the codes and reformulate them in a UBL enumeration.

If we can find an unencumbered *source* for the unencumbered ISO codes, 
then the issue I raised in my note is not relevant.  But, the ISO has 
country codes in XML (fine, no problem there, I tested my stylesheet and it 
works), but the other codes are in Word .doc and HTML files.

Does anyone know of unencumbered expressions of the codes in XML format?

I apologize, Jon, that I did not make my point clear in my earlier post.

................... Ken

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