Re: [ubl-lcsc] pre-draft model for appraisal and initial change log

[Tim McGrath <tmcgrath@portcomm.com.au>]

i am not sure what is going on hear but i also understood we had agreed not
to change our current format.  The minutes state...

> After long debate WRT changing the spreadsheets to
> match TBG specific format, it was decided that it did not matter because
> the dictionary name that is generated in the UBL spreadsheet is not used. 
> The tools (EDIFIX) generate these fields based on the TBG 17 macros (which
> we agree should be definitive in function – not methodology).  It would be
> nice if our formula produced the same results as the TBG 17 as we work on
> the content so that we can see immediate impact on dictionary name, but its
> not critical.  Keeping the format of the model as we now have it permits
> an opportunity for backward compatibility with other tools.

what i see here is a TBG17  style spreadsheet with UBL data attached.  This
is the wrong way around.  I can see that the values in the TBG17 side have
been taken from the UBL side, so it should not be too hard to move the TBG17
entries to the other side (or preferably into a separate spreadsheet).  perhaps
Michael can explain the problem with doing it this way?  If it is too hard
then i suggest we continue with our current 1.0-Beta sheets (after fixing
up the embedded spacing issues).  the TBG17 BIEs have been submitted and
so we dont need to reflect this in our 1.0 final models.  in fact, we shouldn't
because our models will be changing slightly and the TBG17 submission wont
- so the inclusion of this here is misleading and incorrect.

the spreadsheet that EDIFIX produces should be the same of was published
as 1.0 Beta.  as a test they should be capable of being processed by the
UBLish script.  that is our sign of compatibility.  we agreed not to change
this format.

i am also nervous about this all-in-one spreadsheet.  this is not how we
have worked in the past and i cannot see why it needs to be any different
for 1.0 final release.

on tuesday we must decide which models stephen should be applying changes
to.

PS i dont think the datatype columns was used by the script anyway.  as it
now appears un-necessary for TBG17 we should just use it to denote the 1:1
mapping of Representation Term to DataType - i dont think we should drop
it from our models.

Stephen Green wrote:

Tim, Mikkel, LCSC,

 

Here, attached is a spreadsheet I'll be taking as a starting point for my changes from 1.0 beta to 1.0 draft 1.

I've called this version draft 0 as it should be equivalent to beta.

 

Mikkel had made changes:

combining all models into one spreadsheet

combining TBG17 and UBL model formats into the one spreadsheet

but there a few changes I've made myself,

the spreadsheet worksheet name to UBL

adding formulas as agreed in the meeting

plus I thought I'd better reverse the removal of the property noun and possessive,

as I seem to remember being agreed in the meeting

then I've also moved things a little and removed columns I thought were redundant

at the end of the TBG17 area (to keep it in line just with TBG17's format), etc

 

If these changes are disputed and amended via the Tuesday call this week I'll easily

be able to add the content changes to whatever is agreed, but I needed

a sure starting point as far as I think we've agreed.

 

Apologies if this means you have to amend the tool Mikkel, but I think this is what was

agreed in the meeting and the changes I think will be small

- though the columns may be in different places with some removed.

 

I did leave out the removed DataType-related columns from the UBL side,

so apologies again to those who might try using UBLish in future in that the

script will of course need changes beside NDR-related ones (unless empty columns are added first

before generating - along with removal of TBG17 columns and some rows at the top perhaps).

 

Now I'll start making the model content changes.

 

I've attached, in advance, my proposed initial changes to the contents.

 

The next version I'll call UBL 1.0 draft 1

 

All the best

 

Steve

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