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Subject: [ubl-ndrsc] Minutes for 1 May 2002 UBL NDR SC meeting
Minutes for 1 May 2002 NDR SC meeting 1. Roll call (quorum is 8) * Bill Burcham YES * Mavis Cournane * Mark Crawford YES * Fabrice Desré * Matt Gertner * Arofan Gregory YES * Phil Griffin YES * Jessica Glace * Eduardo Gutentag * John Larmouth * Eve Maler YES * Sue Probert YES * Lisa Seaburg YES * Gunther Stuhec * Paul Thorpe Quorum not reached as of y:15. We proceeded informally. 2. Acceptance of minutes of previous meeting 24 April 2002 F2F meeting: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-ndrsc/200204/msg00069.html Deferred. 3. Adoption of agenda Adopted. 4. Status review Mavis: - A: Tag structure/NDR changes IN PROGRESS Eve: - A: Code list paper IN PROGRESS - A: Help Mavis with Word styles in NDR document DONE - A: Get LC SC feedback on global attributes IN PROGRESS - A: Get LC SC feedback on "prose" needs DONE - A: Send out proposed wording for RT/CCT proposal #3 DONE Bill: - C: Role model paper Arofan: - A: (with Gunther) Take up facet discussion with LC SC - A: (with Sue) Send out proposed wording for RT/CCT proposal #4 CANCELED - A: Arofan to forward the latest version of the xCBL versioning paper - B: Containership paper Sue: - A: (with Arofan) Send out proposed wording for RT/CCT proposal #4 CANCELED Gunther: - A: (with Arofan) Take up facet discussion with LC SC - C: Date/time paper Summary of work to be done: A External recommendations for changes to CCTS IN PROGRESS A Code lists IN PROGRESS A Modnamver IN PROGRESS A NDR document production IN PROGRESS A Review the purchase order schema design A (Officially decide elements vs. attributes DONE) A (Officially decide empty elements DONE) B Tag structure B Containership B Fixed vs. varying types C Dates and times Schedule: May 1: RT/CCT completion, code lists (1hr) May 8: (2hr) May 15: (1hr) May 22: (2hr) May 29: (what else?), approve NDR document for distribution (2hr) June 5-9 (the F2F meeting itself, if all goes according to plan) 5. RT/CCT comment approval See threads on ubl-comment list (let's not take oodles more time on this). Our larger concern is that (a) the CCTS is currently not very usable to anyone actually mapping it to a syntax (we being the first), and (b) our current LC SC methodology relies so heavily on assigning RTs to everything that we have a dependency on the not-very-usable parts of the spec. We think that it's likely our comments will be taken seriously, so we should make our best, boldest proposals. If others on the UBL TC want to take a different approach, we should perhaps submit multiple sets of comments. Section 1: Eve's proposal in the "RT vs. CCT comparison" message: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-ndrsc/200204/msg00066.html could be used as a fallback for purely XSD purposes if the CCTS group doesn't accept it. This proposal is favored by those attending today (except that Mark and Sue abstain). Even if CCTS doesn't change, we can still assign Representation Terms to all of our constructs, apart from binding these elements to XSD types; thus we retain our connection to CCTS. Our list of proposed "built-ins" (some primitive, some derived) is something like this: NumericType - AmountType - IdentifierNumericType - MeasureType . QuantityType - PercentType - RateType GraphicType - PictureType IndicatorType CodeType - IdentifierCodeType DateType - DateTimeType TextType - IdentifierTextType - NameType . IdentifierNameType Section 2: We seem to agree that it's generally a good idea to unify ACCs and RTs, but we're concerned that all ACCs will be treated as a true controlled list of "built-ins". Section 3: Obviated by our Section 1 comments. Bill will continue to work on this according to the guidance given above. 6. Code lists Deferred. 7. Modnamver "Wake up" the following topics: - Separate RT/CCT module - How many root schemas Deferred. 8. Adjourn Adjourned at y:59. -- Eve Maler +1 781 442 3190 Sun Microsystems XML Technology Center eve.maler @ sun.com
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