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Subject: [ubl-ndrsc] Minutes for 31July 2002 UBL NDR SC meeting


Dear all
please find attached the minutes of this weeks meeting, July 31st 2002.

Regards
Mavis

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1. Roll call (quorum is 8)
     * Bill Burcham           YES
     * Mavis Cournane     YES
     * Mark Crawford      regrets
     * Fabrice Desr      regrets (until September)
     * Matt Gertner       regrets
     * Arofan Gregory     YES x48
     * Jessica Glace      AWOL
     * Michael Grimley    YES
     * Eduardo Gutentag   YES
     * Eve Maler          regrets
     * Sue Probert       YES
     * Lisa Seaburg       YES
     * Gunther Stuhec     YES
     * Paul Thorpe       YES

Quorum acheived x10.
2. Acceptance of minutes of previous meetings:

24 July 2002
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-ndrsc/200207/msg00021.html

17 July 2002
 http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-ndrsc/200207/msg00011.html

10 July 2002

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-ndrsc/200207/msg00007.html

The minutes are accepted.

3. Adoption of agenda/schedule planning
*Added v6 of Gunther's Date/Time for review

 July 31:
     - Mark sends regrets
    - Topics: Review NDR document, ?

Aug 7th
 - Arofan : embedded documentation, supplementary components
- Gunther: further facet examples
- Identifier references
    ...
    September 18:
    - Topics: Approve documents for review distribution #3
    September 25:
    - No meeting; work on other UBL tasks instead
    October 1-4:
    - F2F #5 in Burlington, MA, USA
       A NDR document improvements (review every two weeks)
       A+ Embedded documentation DONE EXCEPT FOR DOCUMENTING IT
       A Code lists IN PROGRESS
       A Dates and times IN PROGRESS
       A Nested supplementary components
       A Identifier references and whether to pass content by reference
       A- Local vs. global elements
       B+ Containership
       B Updating guiding principles
       B Modnamver URN/schema location
       B Referencing of content, e.g. for attachments
       C Facets
       C Wildcards/open content
       C Nillability
       C Aggregation of similar information for XPath V1.0 addressing


4. Action item review

 Mavis:
    - Review Gunther's script for new issues. RE-ALLOCATED to Lisa Seaburg
    - With Gunther, add info to the NDR document.
      DONE
    - Update the issues spreadsheet with Eve's comments.

    Eve:
    - Finish draft of code list document. IN PROGRESS


    Gunther:
    - Write content referencing paper. IN PROGRESS
    - Review the date/time comments and recommend dispositions. IN PROGRESS

    Bill:
    - Update modnamver; discuss with Eve and Lisa. IN PROGRESS
    - Provide rules for namespace structure and schema location for
insertion in to NDR document. DONE

    Arofan:
    - Get NDR document section written on embedded documentation.
      IN PROGRESS
    - Create a worked example of how to define nested supplementary
      components. This has a dependency on Arofan getting  the new list of
supplementary components. Sue will ask Mike to liaise on this.


5. Other SC reports

Gunther reported on the CCT meeting. At this meeting it was agreed to change
much that UBL had commented on via the feedback.
They hanged CCT scodeType and IdentifierType. A new CCT was created called
BinaryObjects instead of graphics and pictures to be used for attachments.
Reference paper dependent on the design of this.

A one to one relationship between Representation Terms and Core Component
Types was decided upon. This will necessitate NDR to review previous
decisions.


LCSC are getting ready for distribution though the August 16th release date
may get moved. In terms of the distribution, the chair of LCSC is currently
recommending distributing 3 papers alongside the library content. These
papers are:

- Code Identifier (Mike)
- Date Time (Gunther, same as NDR paper)
- Methodology (Tim)

Under the CSC Sue and Arofan will raise the issue of whether these items
should be reviewed by NDR in advance and if these papers should form part of
the distribution. Arofan from the NDR side will review the Code Identifier
paper but in order to do this he will need to have the Feedback from the CCT
group. Gunthers paper is the same for NDR and LCSC Feedback  Sue to talk to
Mike about Arofan's involvement in the review.
Liaise with NDR

In terms of Gunther's date/time paper recent CCT changes will necessitate
that parts of this document be changed. The CSC did recommend freezing a bit
of the NDR document for distribution when it has matured. This will effect
whether updates are done to the date/time section of the NDR document only
or whether Gunther also needs to update his Date/Time position paper.


Gunther to send Mavis snip to insert in to the NDR document.

6A Review NDR document changes
     - Facets
    -  Date and Time
    -  Elements vs Attributes
    - Modnam ver

Done

Naming rules for second tier attributes are  currently missing.
Action: Gunther will prepare some samples for next week of how to handle
second tier attributes.


Gunther: Do we need some further Simple Types if we haven't any facet
restrictions or should we derive from CCTs.
Action: Gunther to prepare some samples to investigate this for next week.
Gunther to send Mavis rules for Recurrence for insertion into the NDR
document.

Mavis: To amend NDR document to put in some example code for Period into the
NDR document.

Regarding recurrence some types of recurence i.e. Every Thursday of every
week, every first week within a month are not currently handled by the
proposed rules for recurrence in the Date/Time paper v6. It was decided that
the rules cover 80% of cases for now and will suffice for this version.
Market specific applications can be considered for the next version.

6B Review Gunther's list of questions
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-ndrsc/200207/msg00020.html

Done

7. Embedded documentation
Deferred until Aug 7th meeting.

8. Identifier references
      - Identifier references and whether to pass content by reference
Deferred until Aug 7th meeting.

adjourned y58

9. Next week's meeting
Mavis can not attend. She will liaise with Eve to make sure arrangements run
smoothly.





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