Lisa Seaburg, Eve Maler (signed
off at X:43), Arofan Gregory, Paul Thorpe, Bill Burcham, Gunther Stuhec, Jon
Bosak
2. Acceptance of minutes of previous meeting - Did not have quorum,
but did have critical mass. Continued without accepting
minutes.
Minutes from
30 October:
3. Adoption of agenda
4. Review action items and
status
Mavis: (Not on call,
deferred)
-
Turn the free
normative text in the NDR document into isolated, numbered rules.
-
Status: still open. Lisa is working with Mavis, and has
identified approach. Should have
something to release next week.
Eve:
-
Compile a list of the supplementary components and their
definitions on a per-CCT basis. Status: See her email of
11/4/02
-
Ask the Sun XML community to analyze the seriousness of
the fragment processing problem with
local elements. Status:
unknown. (Will look into
this)
Discussion?
-
Containership - Where did we leave
this? Defered for Mavis
to be here.
-
Has anyone had the time to review the new
work of the LCSC?
-
Facets - Gunther and
Mavis - Worked with Mavis, finished the section in the NDR
document, there are still some questions, which were sent out last
week.
-
Q: A restriction of BCCs is simple, but
BBIEs is more complex. Discussion:
-
We read through the Rules in the NDR document and
Gunther went through what the examples are and how they work.
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ACTION ITEM: Gunther to fix examples in NDR
document, and do different types of examples.
-
There is still a problem restricting the complex
types.
-
Bill had some ideas about how we could do this,
Gunther will look into it further. Discussion through the email list
will continue.
-
If we use a new element for the content itself,
you inherit the restrictions.
-
Q: Do you have any idea on how to define the Representation
type for integer?
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We have RT: value, RT: percent, RT:
number
-
It would be very useful if we had
this,
-
Bill feels we should kick this over to the LCSC
and see if they think we need it.
-
We are defining complex types for every BCC. If UN/CEFACT
changes anything inside of a CCT, what happens then?
-
You inherit those changes.
-
If you define a new BCC, you won't copy.
you inherit.
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ACTION: Gunther will try out the
possibilities and research what happens if the CCT's change. Can we
restrict or extend the BCC?
-
ACTION: Bill proposes a new piece of work
is required here, the Perl script generates XSD for basic BIEs as well as
ABIEs. That means that probably we have to infer the presence of
these BIEs declaring the CCT. This means the LCSC must have all
information necessary to allow the Perl script to do this. Gunther
will have to make some changes to the configuration file. We
envision that there is really enough info right now for the script to know
right enough to do this.
-
-
NDR Document Review – Rules discussion -
Mavis not on call, deferred to next weeks call.
-
Other Schema
representation
-
We were going to discuss what to do
about ASN.1 and other schema languages that are out
there.
-
These will be annexes to the NDR document.
-
See summary from Paul in last weeks minutes.
-
Referencing Strategies – depending on
Gunther’s ability to finish work. Still waiting for response from colleagues,
they are reviewing. Will send to this group once that review cycle is
done.
-
Embedded documentation – depending on
Arofan’s ability to finish work - Unable to get anything done this week, will
be working.
Priority |
Work
Item |
Status |
Responsibility |
A |
Issues appearing
in the NDR document |
Break down into
smaller pieces |
Mavis |
A |
Local vs. global
– |
Complete. Need to incorporate into
NDR. |
Mavis to
include |
A |
Code lists
|
Needs new
draft |
Eve |
A |
CCT module work
|
In progress. Needs to be broken down into
smaller pieces. Section 3
work in the NDR document is dependent on this. |
Open -
Gunter |
A |
Containership |
Joint effort with
LC needs final resolution.
Still open |
Arofan was
volunteered by Lisa |
B |
Referencing
strategies. |
Part of CCT
Module Work. Update in progress.
Anticipate position paper on 5 November. |
Gunther |
B |
Naming rules |
Done |
Mavis |
C |
Facet outreach
|
Still
working. Gunter has received
material from Lisa. |
Lisa and
Gunter |
C |
MODNAMVER |
Complete. |
Bill |
C |
Embedded documentation |
Needs to be moved
to NDR document.
|
Arofan
|
C |
ASN.1 schema
|
Done – However
there is an issue within the group on how/should to present
this |
Larmouth |
C |
Updating
guiding principles |
In
Progress |
Mavis/Lisa |
C |
Wildcards |
Open |
Lisa |
C |
Nillability |
Started.
|
Lisa |
C |
Instance
Constraints |
Open |
Lisa |
ACTION: Lisa will send out Nillability paper, Discussion about this
today was that we don't want to use it. Lisa will collect info from
different discussions and put forward. It was put forward that we want to
make Nil="false" in all cases. (Paul and Arofan agreed)
5. Work through other NDR document "flesh out" issues - Hold
for Mavis.
6. Other Sub-Committees:
-
LCSC
- Lisa
-
Tools and Techniques - Gunther, needs to make changes to Perl
script and configuration files. See notes above.
-
Context Methodology - Arofan and Gunther,
7. Next meeting topics
8. Adjourn
"Remember that great love and great achievements
involve great
risk." ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"Remember that great love and great achievements
involve great
risk." ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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