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Subject: [ubl-ndrsc] Minutes - NDR/LCSC Joint Call 22 Jan 03


LCSC/NDRSC joint meeting Wednesday 22 January 2003 16h00 UTC

1. Attendees:
Jon Bosak
Bill Burcham
Dave Carlson
Matt Gertner
Arofan Gregory
Mike Grimley
Eduardo Gutentag
Ken Holman
Sue Probert
Marion Royal
Lisa Seaburg
Ray Seddigh
Gunther Stuhec
Paul Thorpe

2. Acceptance of previous minutes
 
Posted late - will approve next week.

3. Adoption of Agenda
 
4. Review of previous action items
 
 Joint meeting:
 20030122-01 Post namespaces solution info - Ken. Done.
 20030122-02 Generate next version of schema w/ Ken's
   namespaces solution by tomorrow morning's call.
   Send out pointer - Gunther, BillB, Sue/Mike.
   Done.
 20030122-03 Produce/send new UML diagrams - Dave.
 20030122-04 Write para on issue(s)for release notes.
   Send to Lisa to put in html ReleaseNotes doc.
   Arofan/BillB:
 20020122-05 Build release notes - Lisa.
 20020122-06 create sample instances - Bill Meadows/Sue/Jean.
 
 NDRSC meeting:
 A.  NDR Document Status - Mark Crawford
  1) Sections: Code Lists - Lisa;
     Facets - Mavis
 A.  Schema - Gunther Stuhec
  (LCSC release, and status of the schema in this release.)
 B.  Context Methodology  - Matt Gertner
 C.  Polymorphisim Paper - Arofan Gregory
 

5. Status review
 
 Urgency: have been through several iterations in how to realize
 global/local, but didn't work for some purposes (names too long).
 Gunther has done work overnight to produce new schemas which parse.
 Since ndr decisions have driven most of these past week's work,
 need to know plan of record.  Schema release of 45 minutes ago
 is close to meeting goals.
 
6. Work items remaining
 
 Spreadsheets:
 Schemas done but spreadsheets still need one small final fix.
 Sue will revise spreadsheet and pass back to Gunther.
 If not ok, Sue/Mike/Gunther will resolve.
 Please also cc to Lisa and LC.
 
 ** All communication on these issues should go to LCSC mail list. **
 
 Config.xsd:
 Ken: All namespace uris suffixed with .xsd.  Intentional?
  In 0.65 no suffix - not meant to be filename.
 Gunther: OK, but requires perl script change
 Ken: namespace issues have been moved to configuration file
 Gunther: config.xsd is schema for configuration files
 Lisa: now lives in bin directory w/ Perl script
 
 Sample instances:
 Jon: whenever redo schemas, also redo dummy instances?
 Lisa: will talk to Bill post to lc list as soon as he can
 after Gunther redoes schemas to use for testing;
 schemas redone as soon after call as possible (Gunther).
 Ken: 6 of 7 instances are done (.pdf files)
 can't define data instance until final schemas have stabilized
 
 UML:
 Dave: uml can be done in about hour after schemas.
 
 ASN:
 Paul: if schemas done today, then probably tomorrow (about a day);
 thought we were releasing docs that would have ASN as appendix.
 
 Packaging:
 Jon: John Larmuth was going to tell us the file structure;
 release is html document that points out to external files
 with specific file names.  Need to know file names to point to
 (doing these as appendices makes doc too large, so we are having
 external files referenced by cover html doc).
 Lisa send link to html file so Paul can see what is happening.
 Paul send Lisa/BillM file names/file structure.
 

7. Schedule
 
 Jon:
 Not actually talking about 2 releases - one, but final bits are
 in place by 24th.  Some of this consists of pointers with single
 pages that says this is coming.  But all is represented in image
 on the 24th.  If on morning of 27th someone opens this up they
 will find everything in order.
 
 Today through Monday:
  Gunther/Sue own changes to spreadsheet.
  Other changes (see above).
  Ken sanity check schemas against new instances.
  Expect final package by end of day.
  Will do quick sanity check today.
  Lisa is release master.
  Schedule:
      today:
   final spreadsheets (Lisa)
   schemas updated (Gunther)
   para with intro to uml diagrams, etc. (Dave)
   release notes (Lisa)
   dummy pages (Lisa/Bill)
   begin parallel efforts
    dummy instances (BillM)
    stylesheet packages (Ken)
    uml (Dave)
    asn (Paul)
    validation (Jon)
    validation (Dave - SQC)
    validation (others - non-tech)
      thursday
   Lisa/Bill populate image
      friday (freeze)
   everytihng announced is there
   except what is pointed to that has dummy pages
      24th
   Jon informs oasis to put announcement in Monday's oasis newsletter;  immediate work should be done 27th
   public announcement 29th
   all supplemental material in to Lisa 31st
   release of supplemental materials
 
 Jon:
 As people put things in they should do a sanity check.
 Most things should not point to zip files - should point to files.
 Lisa/Bill have license to decide structure/disposition/access.
 Links should be relative, named correctly for final filenames.
 Lisa build/keep image on her system.  Build zip from that.
 Should be able to zip up final copy of final web page from Lisa's drive.
 Only one update.  Send to Lisa by Jan 29, will release/announce on Jan 31.
 
 Dave send mail to Karl Best to be added to lc list;
  in meantime, send to ndr and individuals
 
 Lisa include blurb in release notes saying that supplemental packages
  are coming later.
 
8. Release structure:
 
 Two separate releases?
  - Core schemas, spreadsheets.
  - Supplemental materials to go with original release.
 Easier for users to re-release all.
 Jon: Leave as many things unbound as possible;
  can release first package now;
  then re-release first package + supplemental on 31st.
  This is for review cycle; this fits original plan;
  aren't changing original - that needs to be made clear.
 
9. Promotion/Distribution:
 
 Ray: Should we do the release first to liaisons?
 
 Jon: no, too late; but can still send email to liaison list
  but no guarantee it won't change;  Jon will make up
  separate announcement for liaisons, which can be
  forwarded (provides couple hour lead time).
 
 Marion: opportunity for lc qa team on Friday (24th)
  - marion will send out numbers
  - 7:30 ca time ok
 

10. Denver (3 Feb - 7 Feb):
 
 Planned attendance:
  Arofan, Gunther, Sue, Eduardo, Lisa, Marion.
  Others by phone.
 
 Issues to discuss: namespace, global/local.
 
 Marion: who's tracking publicity?  Jon relying on contacts.
  Infoworld talked to M last week and got an article.
  Put a summary of this on marketing page?
  List at bottom of main ubl tc page.
 

11. Next meeting:
 
 Lisa: call next Wednesday 29th (supplemental release date).
  Joint call appropriate? Yes.
 
12. Adjourn (11:41 am)
 
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Lisa Seaburg
AEON Consulting
Website: http://www.aeon-llc.com
Email:  lseaburg@aeon-llc.com
Alternative Email: xcblgeek@yahoo.com
Phone: 662-562-7676
Cellphone: 662-501-7676
 
"If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun."
                       -Katharine Hepburn
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