Re: [ubl-lcsc] Re: [ubl-ndrsc] UBL: question on CCT language component

[Tim McGrath <tmcgrath@portcomm.com.au>]

I cannot find where it says they are indicator. Content???  di you mean Identifier. Content?

In the data model i derived fro the tables in 8-1 and 8-2, you will see that both Language.Identifier and Language.Locale.Identifier are Identifiers and therefore have an Identifer. Content (ie xsd:token).

This conundrum exposes the 'flat' structures we have built for CCTs and Rep. Terms , when they should have been more sophisticated.  That is, we should have had things like...

<Language>
<Identifier>
<Content>
EN
</Content>
</Identifier>
<LocaleIdentifier>
<Content>
US
</Content>
</LocaleIdentifier>
</Language>

where the schema reflects the true structures of the CCTs and not the table


CRAWFORD, Mark wrote:

>Anne,
>
>Language supplementary components are of indicator. Content.
>Mark Crawford
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Anne Hendry <anne.hendry@sun.com>
>To: ubl-lcsc@lists.oasis-open.org <ubl-lcsc@lists.oasis-open.org>; ubl-ndrsc@lists.oasis-open.org <ubl-ndrsc@lists.oasis-open.org>
>Sent: Sat Feb 28 01:16:14 2004
>Subject: [ubl-ndrsc] UBL: question on CCT language component
>
>   Hi,
>
>In matching up the UBL xsd datatype assignments to cct types, I could 
>use some clarification on the 'language*' components.  All other 
>components listed in table 8-2 of ccts 2.01 have a 'content' component 
>and then some supplementary components.  However, language* components 
>seem to be all supplementary, with no content component - they just 
>appear as 'Language.Identifier' and 'Language.Locale.Identifier'.  So, 
>then, going through the xsd representation of the Code type in table 
>8-2, for example, I have all the attributes (supplementary components) 
>of Code type accounted for, but there is one extra in the schema that is 
>not in the cct 8-2 table.  That is 'languageID'.  Here is the xsd for 
>the 'Code' element:
>
>- <xsd:simpleContent>
>- <xsd:extension base="xsd:token">
>  <xsd:attribute name="listID" type="xsd:token" use="optional" />
>  <xsd:attribute name="listAgencyID" type="xsd:token" use="optional" />
>  <xsd:attribute name="listAgencyName" type="xsd:token" use="optional" />
>  <xsd:attribute name="listName" type="xsd:token" use="optional" />
>  <xsd:attribute name="listVersionID" type="xsd:token" use="optional" />
>  <xsd:attribute name="name" type="xsd:token" use="optional" />
>  <xsd:attribute name="languageID" type="xsd:language" use="optional" />
>  <xsd:attribute name="listURI" type="xsd:anyURI" use="optional" />
>  <xsd:attribute name="listSchemeURI" type="xsd:anyURI" use="optional" />
>  </xsd:extension>
>  </xsd:simpleContent>
>
>The definition of the 'Language.Identifier' component in the ccts 8-2 
>table defines it as "The indentifier of the language used in the 
>corresponding text string."  Well, ok, there is a 'text' string (name) 
>in the schema right above this that corresponds to the ccts entry in 8-2 
>'Code.Name.Text'.  However, there are other 'text' strings (eg. in 
>BinaryObject Name, etc) in 8-2 tha t don't seem to have a 'languageID' 
>attribute attached.
>
>So my questions are:
>
>a) Why does Language.Identifier not have a content component?  It seems 
>like somewhat of a free-floating supplementary component the way it is now.
>b) When/how do we choose to use the Language.Identifier?
>c) Along with Language.Identifier in table 8-2 there is 
>'Language.Locale.Identifier', also a seemingly free-floating 
>supplementary component.  Is it expected that wherever there is a 
>Language.Identifier attribute needed/used there should also be a 
>Language.Locale.Identifier?
>
>I am only looking at the cct schema. I'm assuming the rep terms schema 
>is going away.  Is this a correct assumption and I should only look at 
>cct?  What about the cc parameters schema - will that be auto-generated 
>(or will that one be removed too)??
>
>Thanks,
>An ne
>
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