Re: [ubl-psc] udt:Amount type - does it need qualifying in UBL 2.0??

[Tim McGrath <tmcgrath@portcomm.com.au>]

there is no difference in the model (which is what we would have hoped 
for).  the difference is that if you look inside Amount Currency. Code 
List Version. Identifier in the UBL specialized data type you should see 
a fixed value of "0.3".


Sylvia Webb wrote:

>The attached screen shot shows the ATG2 udt amount type on the left. On the
>right is the UBL 1.0 specialized (sDT) amount type. What is the difference
>in the two?
> 
>Regards,
>Sylvia
>
>________________________________
>
>From: Tim McGrath [mailto:tmcgrath@portcomm.com.au] 
>Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 6:36 PM
>To: Stephen Green
>Cc: ubl-psc@lists.oasis-open.org
>Subject: Re: [ubl-psc] udt:Amount type - does it need qualifying in UBL 2.0
>??
>
>
>I think this comes under a broader issue.  I apologize to Stephen for
>repeating some of his points but I think it needs putting into perspective.
>
>The real question we have to ask is what specialized data types do we
>want/need for UBL 2.0?
>
>Under CCTS, we are allowed to derived our specialized data types from the
>ATG2 unqualified data types [note the horrible difference in terminology].
>But if we do so we must model them and create the appropriate schema file.
>
>In UBL 1.0 we did this for the data types where we wanted to specify values
>for their attributes.   Mainly this meant codes sets.
>
>UBL_Amount is the only specialized data type in UBL 1.0 that is not a code.
>Therefore it is the only one not likely to be made redundant by the code
>list debate.
>
>We created UBL_Amount so we could mandate the use of a specific version of
>the ISO currency codes in any BBIE that was an amount.  If we use the ATG2
>unqualified data type called 'Amount' then this specifices ISO codes for us.
>What it does not do is specify the version of ISO being used.
>
>So I would say we do need to keep UBL_Amount as a UBL specialization of the
>ATG2 unqualified data type called Amount.  We specialize it by making the
>value of the attribute AmountCurrencyCodeListVersionID to be always "0.3".
>
>Now we need to decide how to implement this.
>
>Stephen Green wrote:
>
>
>		We discussed off list whether to have our
>	own qualified version of the udt:Amount
>	 
>	Mmm.. I don't think it is less of a use of the
>	ATG2 datatypes to add our own qualified 
>	datatypes. Just to do so as an example to
>	others might justify it but it would still be better,
>	I think, to only do so if the ATG2 unqualified
>	datatype Amount is insufficient. This was what
>	we agreed was the case when in 1.0 we added
>	the UBLAmount (admittedly though it wasn't
>	an alternative to the ATG2 udt:Amount but to the
>	CCTS conceptual unqualified Amount): we
>	wanted to limit the codelist version to - was it
>	0.3 or 3.0 I can't remember - and to fix the
>	relevant attribute to that. Now, however, I'd say
>	we should avoid fixing any version attribute as
>	a rule since it precludes backwards compatibility
>	later when in a minor version we wish to change
>	to a newer version say.
>	 
>	My opinion is that we don't want to fix the
>	version of the currency codelist used with a major
>	version Amount (as it might have to change in
>	minor versions) but to allow users to specify
>	which they use (and therefore be able to change
>	it without having to progress to another major
>	version). So we ought not fix it. Then the question
>	is: Is the ATG2 udt:Amount appropriate for this
>	without specialization/qualification? 
>	 
>	All the best
>	 
>	Steve
>	 
>	
>
>  
>

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