Hi Tim
This is a problem because of two things:
1) For a legal sense you need to be able to
track in the document who it is intended for and who sended it also
when the envelope is stripped away.
2) To be able to make it work in a
electronic world you need to someway to identify the sender and
receiver inside the document for being able to generate the envelope.
Otherwise the envelope becomes a part of the standard.
/Peter
PS: I will do my best to generate a new
version tonight.
i am not sure the parties at the document root have anything to do with
who sends or receives the documents. typically they are parties to
whom the information on the document is addressed or who have some role
in the business process.
think about an Order. Just because some party is the Buyer Customer
Party does not mean they sent the Order.
These transportation documents are not used in the same way as in a
procurement binary process where two parties swap documents back and
forth. The documents follow a chain (or network) of parties -
different parties can send the same documents depending on the role.
so it does not help us to put the various parties (listed below) at the
document root level. because this still does not tell us who sent this
document or who it was addressed to.
I don't see why this is a problem to you.
Peter Larsen Borresen wrote:
Hi Tim
In all documents we have party types on
root level. There are two mandatory parties in every documents (besides
the trading documents): The sender of the document and the receiver of
the documents. This is NOT just something that can be dealt with in the
enveloping. You need to see who is responsible for this document and
who is it intended for, even when the envelope is not there anymore.
This is also common practice in the paper world. You newer see a letter
without it is written who the sender is and who it is intended to.
Kind regards
Peter
notsure why you think this has to be in the document root.
with these documents (copies of which can be exchanged around groups of
different parties), the sender/receiver are dealt with in the
enveloping.
the parties you may be thinking of are the:
Consignment. Consignee_ Party
Consignment. Exporter_ Party
Consignment. Consignor_ Party
Consignment. Importer_ Party
Consignment. Carrier_ Party
Consignment. Freight Forwarder_ Party
Consignment. Notify_ Party
Consignment. Original Despatch_ Party
Consignment. Final Delivery_ Party
- specified in the Consignment for the Shipment described by the
document.
Peter Larsen Borresen wrote:
Hi Tim
I have a problem with transport documents. I am missing the party that sends
the doument and the party that receives them. Why are they not specified?
/Peter
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Fra: Tim McGrath [mailto:tmcgrath@portcomm.com.au]
Sendt: 18. december 2005 04:19
Til: Peter Larsen Borresen
Emne: Re: SV: Found some errors in draft 12 Combined spreadsheet
thats OK I guess monday will be fine - gives me time to finalize the
diagrams and maybe find other things to change.
I will send you another set of spreadsheets for you to use first thing
on monday morning (your time). Then, when you can load them into EDIFIX
I would like you to send them to Betty and copy the UBL list.
Peter Larsen Borresen wrote:
Hi Tim
I'll se what I can do. I need to install EDIFIX at my computer at home
first. It will ealist be sunday night (my time). You could ask Sylvia if
she
can make the chages if you whant it before that (if she is working in the
weekend)
/Peter
-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: Tim McGrath [mailto:tmcgrath@portcomm.com.au]
Sendt: 17. december 2005 09:22
Til: Peter Larsen Borresen
Emne: Found some errors in draft 12 Combined spreadsheet
here is a later version of the combined that removes some redundant
associations.
Can you rename and use this version for the schemas.
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