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Subject: VS: [ubl-psc] Meeting in the UBL PSC the 3rd of May 10.30 (CEST)


Dear all

 

Here is a speadsheet that explains the requirement better.

 

/Peter

 

Fra: Duvekot, Kees [mailto:kduvekot@Wehkamp.nl]
Sendt: 2. maj 2012 10:33
Til: 'plb@ebConnect.dk'
Emne: RE: [ubl-psc] Meeting in the UBL PSC the 3rd of May 10.30 (CEST)

 

Peter,

 

Maybe we should also send out the link to the spreadsheet that I created on Google Docs:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjHA5wwvbyredE80MkF2c1ViR2ZGLXo2UEctY3p2OUE

 

Because a more extensive example is presented there.

 

Kees

 

Van: ubl-psc@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:ubl-psc@lists.oasis-open.org] Namens Peter L. Borresen
Verzonden: woensdag 2 mei 2012 10:05
Aan: ubl-psc@lists.oasis-open.org
CC: Georg Birgisson
Onderwerp: [ubl-psc] Meeting in the UBL PSC the 3rd of May 10.30 (CEST)

 

Dear all

 

I would like to call in for a meeting in the UBL PSC tomorrow the 3rd of May 10.30 CET. Sorry for the short notice.

 

The Agenda will be:

 

1)      Review of the resolution regarding referring orders in OrderLines (using line reference on lineItem)

2)      The calculation model, see the following debate between Oriol and Kees Duvekot:

(from Kees)

Hi Peter

 

I agree with the comments from Martin

 

Regarding the sample you asked me for his sample, it should look like:

 

                             <cac:OrderLine>
                                                         
<cac:LineItem>
                                                                                      
<cbc:ID>2</cbc:ID>
                                                                                      
<cbc:Quantity unitCode="EA">1</cbc:Quantity>
                                                                                      
<cbc:LineExtensionAmount currencyID="EUR">50.00</cbc:LineExtensionAmount>
                                                                                      
<!—But kind of Tax is this? and the Tax on the disposalcharge? Should that not be included? -->

                                                                                       <!— And what if the item and disposal charge have different rates?  -->

                                                                                       <cbc:TotalTaxAmount currencyID="EUR">8.00</cbc:TotalTaxAmount>

                                                                                       <!—what is this AllowanceCharge used for? It looks like to discount on the price, but that is not clear-->

                                                                                       <!—and what if the Quantity is not 1? Shoud it then be multiplied by the quantity? And how do I communicate the per item discount?-->

                                                                                       <cac:AllowanceCharge>
                                                                                                                   
<cbc:ChargeIndicator>false</cbc:ChargeIndicator>
                                                                                                                   
<cbc:Amount currencyID="EUR">60.00</cbc:Amount>
                                                                                      
</cac:AllowanceCharge>
                                                                                      
<cac:AllowanceCharge>
                                                                                                                   
<cbc:ChargeIndicator>true</cbc:ChargeIndicator>
                                                                                                                   
<cbc:AllowanceChargeReason>Disposal charge</cbc:AllowanceChargeReason>
                                                                                                                   
<cbc:Amount currencyID="EUR">10.00</cbc:Amount>
                                                                                      
</cac:AllowanceCharge>
                                                                                      
<cac:Price>
                                                                                                                   
<cbc:PriceAmount currencyID="EUR">100.00</cbc:PriceAmount>
                                                                                      
</cac:Price>
                                                                                      
<cac:Item>
                                                                                                                   
<cbc:Name>Item A</cbc:Name>
                                                                                      
</cac:Item>
                                                         
</cac:LineItem>
                            
</cac:OrderLine>

 

As Martin says, there is no room in the order to report detailed VAT information.  Adding the TaxTotal class would help specifiyng better tax related information in the order. Nevertheless, I have to admit that I have never seen an order with VAT information. It is up to the supplier to calculate taxes.

KD: Then we still need this information in the LineItem component so that the supplier can communicate the tax details back in the OrderResponse message.

 

The only thing I've seen is an order (or a tender) indicating that the total amount is tax included.

 

So my personal opinion is not adding more information in the order line. It is already huge.

 

Best regards

Oriol

 

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