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Subject: UBL and TBG3 collaboration was... Re: Are either of you planningto attend the UBL Symposium in Denmark?

Firstly I agree that we need a specific plan with deliverables and targets. I will talk about this with Kama when we meet in 2 weeks and perhaps we can proposed some activiites for your consideration.  This seems to have worked well with our collaboration with TBG1.

It is unfortunate that we have disconnected meeting schedules as these intial issues are best dealt with more interactively.  It transpires that I may have some time in Paris (maybe December 1,2 and 3). So perhaps we could try and meet up informally there and try to finalize a workplan?  Let me know if this is reasonable and I will make firmer plans.

PS. I should point out that we are not talking about something called "UBL 3.0".  The plan with CEFACT is that there will not be a UBL 3.0 but rather a common integrated suite of CEFACT XML documents.  It may be that these are a profile (or implementation) of the more generic concepts that TBG3 are managing but in any case i personally suspect it will not be called UBL 3.0.  Of course, it will be an upgrade path from UBL 2.0 but it may be more appropriate to call this the "next generation" of XML document schemas for transport.

Henk van Maaren wrote:

Dear Dominique and Tim,


Could the future workplan be more specific on how we could ensure that UBL 3.0 would take all business requirements expressed by TBG3 into account, what activities would be required to do so, taking into account the limited resources available to TBG3?


Best regards,


Henk van Maaren



From: Dominique Vankemmel [mailto:dvankemmel@wanadoo.fr]
Sent: 24 October 2006 12:10
To: 'Tim McGrath'
Cc: hvmaaren@cetima.nl; kama@crimsonlogic.com; Jean-François JANIN; DELBECQ JEAN-MARIE; Eric LOUETTE; Yoshi; Simon Spoormaker; Tony Davies
Subject: RE : Are either of you planning to attend the UBL Symposium in Denmark?


Dear Tim,


Unfortunately, I cannot attend your UBL Symposium in Denmark on November 16th due to lack of funding, although my presence as TBG3 Chair would have help in strengthening our collaboration with UBL and in discussing the future work plan.


We have positively acknowledged the message of October 6th from Kama Chair of UBL Transport Committee, following the TBG3 resolution from our Barcelona meeting (I have to recognize that our wording may have been a little bit strong…).

We are now looking forward to the development of the next UBL 3.0 release, expecting it will include all the business requirements expressed by TBG3, and hoping that, in the meantime as announced by the CEFACT Officials, UBL will move its work to UN/CEFACT.


Thanks to keep us informed on the outcome of your week session in Denmark.


Best regards




-----Message d'origine-----
De : Henk van Maaren [mailto:hvmaaren@cetima.nl]
Envoyé : mardi 24 octobre 2006 10:23
À : 'Tim McGrath'; dvankemmel@wanadoo.fr
Objet : RE: Are either of you planning to attend the UBL Symposium in Denmark?




I will not attend the UBL symposium in Denmark (and I think neither will



Any chance to discuss collaboration in another way?


Best regards,






-----Original Message-----

From: Tim McGrath [mailto:tmcgrath@portcomm.com.au]

Sent: 24 October 2006 09:53

To: Henk van Maaren; dvankemmel@wanadoo.fr

Subject: Are either of you planning to attend the UBL Symposium in Denmark?


I was wondering if either of you had considered attending the UBL

International Symposium in Denmark on Thursday November 16 2006?


It would be a good chance to catch up and talk about collaboration

projects over the next few months.


For more full details see the symposium web site at





tim mcgrath

phone: +618 93352228 

postal: po box 1289   fremantle    western australia 6160

web: http://www.portcomm.com.au/tmcgrath



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