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Subject: Re: TSC Action Item FollowUp
The CEFACT 'shipment' definition is correct for a generic shipment meaning. But when the Seller (Shipper) make use of an International Forwarder to organize the shipment on his behalf we have a "shipment contract". The "shipment contract" is something different from a "commercial contract" and of course not a "transport contract". Is the UBL Shipment ASBIE a: 1) generic container with general shipment information 2) a "shipment contract" detail 3) or both ? Just a question. Thanks UBL ITLSC co-chair Roberto Cisternino --- hvmaaren@cetima.nl ha scritto: > Dear Andy, > > Within UN/CEFACT (agreed by both transport and trade) the word > shipment refers > to the collection of goods items between the seller and the buyer under a > commercial contract, and the word consignment is used for the > collection of > goods items between the consignor and the consignee under a transport > contract. > > I recommend the UBL-TSC to follow the same mechanism for consistency > reasons. > A shipment certainly is not a set of arrangements. > > Regards, > > Henk van Maaren > > Quoting Andrew Schoka <AMSchoka@comcast.net>: > >> Dear TSC members, >> >> >> >> During our last telecon we ran out of time to discuss an action that >> we had >> been given from the TC. The action item from the TC is as follows: >> >> >> >> UPDATE PACKAGE: JPLSC COMMENTS >> >> ACTION (12/18): AS to get answer from TSC regarding JPLSC >> >> comment 25. >> >> >> >> JPLSC comment 25 to the 2.0 update package is as follows: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Category >> >> Business Document or ABIE >> >> BIE >> >> Questions, Comments >> >> >> Transportation >> >> BillOfLading >> >> Waybill >> >> Shipment (ASBIE) >> >> The definitions of Shipment (ASBIE) in BillOfLading and Waybill are >> differrent each other, >> >> We think that these definitions should be same. >> >> Definition (BillOfLading): Information about the separately identifiable >> collection of goods items (available to be) transported from one >> consignor >> to one consignee via one or more modes of transport. >> >> Definition (Waybill): A separately identifiable collection of goods >> items >> (available to be) transported from one consignor to one consignee via >> one or >> more modes of transport. >> >> >> >> >> >> I think it is appropriate that there be consistency across the various >> documents when the same ASBIEs are identified and their definitions >> used. >> With regard to the definition of Shipment, I believe that we have >> previously >> had an email exchange and a telecon discussion regarding an appropriate >> definition. Based upon a contribution by Tim McGrath and subsequent >> discussions, I propose that we adopt the definition we last discussed >> presented in a grammatically correct form. >> >> >> >> o SHIPMENT >> >> The arrangements necessary for an identifiable collection of one or more >> goods items to be transported between the original consignor and the >> ultimate consignee. This information represents what is required, >> that is a >> "logical" or contractual view. A shipment can be transported in >> different >> consignments (eg split for logistical purposes). >> >> >> >> I propose that this be the resolution of the action item. If I don't >> receive >> a response within 7 days, I will presume concurrence. Jon will then >> use this >> definition wherever the definition of shipment is used. >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Andy Schoka >> >> Acting Chair TSC >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1223 - Release Date: >> 1/13/2008 >> 8:23 PM >> >> > > > >
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