RE: TSC Action Item FollowUp

["Andrew Schoka" <AMSchoka@comcast.net>]

Dear Henk,
Thank you for your constructive input. I solicit any further comments from
this TSC list and any suggestions as to a way forward. As you saw in the
initial email we need to be consistent within the UBL data dictionary and a
broader transport community understanding is also important.
Regards,
Andy Schoka



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Subject: Re: TSC Action Item FollowUp

Dear Andy,

Within UN/CEFACT (agreed by both transport and trade) the word shipment
refers
to the collection of goods items between the seller and the buyer under a
commercial contract, and the word consignment is used for the collection of
goods items between the consignor and the consignee under a transport 
contract.

I recommend the UBL-TSC to follow the same mechanism for consistency
reasons.
A shipment certainly is not a set of arrangements.

Regards,

Henk van Maaren

Quoting Andrew Schoka <AMSchoka@comcast.net>:

> Dear TSC members,
>
>
>
> During our last telecon we ran out of time to discuss an action that we
had
> been given from the TC. The action item from the TC is as follows:
>
>
>
> UPDATE PACKAGE: JPLSC COMMENTS
>
>   ACTION (12/18): AS to get answer from TSC regarding JPLSC
>
>   comment 25.
>
>
>
> JPLSC comment 25 to the 2.0 update package is as follows:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Category
>
> Business Document or ABIE
>
> BIE
>
> Questions, Comments
>
>
> Transportation
>
> BillOfLading
>
> Waybill
>
> Shipment (ASBIE)
>
> The definitions of Shipment (ASBIE) in BillOfLading and Waybill are
> differrent each other,
>
> We think that these definitions should be same.
>
> Definition (BillOfLading): Information about the separately identifiable
> collection of goods items (available to be) transported from one consignor
> to one consignee via one or more modes of transport.
>
> Definition (Waybill): A separately identifiable collection of goods items
> (available to be) transported from one consignor to one consignee via one
or
> more modes of transport.
>
>
>
>
>
> I think it is appropriate that there be consistency across the various
> documents when the same ASBIEs are identified and their definitions used.
> With regard to the definition of Shipment, I believe that we have
previously
> had an email exchange and a telecon discussion regarding an appropriate
> definition. Based upon a contribution by Tim McGrath and subsequent
> discussions, I propose that we adopt the definition we last discussed
> presented in a grammatically correct form.
>
>
>
> o          SHIPMENT
>
> The arrangements necessary for an identifiable collection of one or more
> goods items to be transported between the original consignor and the
> ultimate consignee. This information represents what is required, that is
a
> "logical" or contractual view. A shipment can be transported in different
> consignments (eg split for logistical purposes).
>
>
>
> I propose that this be the resolution of the action item. If I don't
receive
> a response within 7 days, I will presume concurrence. Jon will then use
this
> definition wherever the definition of shipment is used.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Andy Schoka
>
> Acting Chair TSC
>
>
>
>
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