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Subject: [ubl-ttsc] RE: SourceForge information and recommendation


1. If you're going to do this make sure that everything is accessible
from the OASIS TC page. Links, etc.

2. Yes, OASIS is considering providing SourceForge (or similar) to our
TCs, given that a few TCs are starting to use this functionality. Any
suggestions would be welcome.

Karl F. Best
OASIS - Director, Technical Operations
978.667.5115 x206
karl.best@oasis-open.org  http://www.oasis-open.org

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eve L. Maler [mailto:eve.maler@sun.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 4:45 PM
> To: ubl-ttsc@lists.oasis-open.org
> Cc: karl.best@oasis-open.org
> Subject: SourceForge information and recommendation
> As a co-owner of the TTSC "code management" issue, I wanted
> to report on
> what I found out from Norm about SourceForge.
> It's used for the "source code" (schemas, DTDs, stylesheets
> and XML source
> for documents) for DocBook, Catalog, and for some of RELAX NG
> (all are
> OASIS TCs).  Norm uses the revision control, bug tracking,
> and release
> control features, which he finds provide for enough metadata
> storage to get
> the job done.  You have to be made a member of a project
> (password-protected) in order to change files.
> Underneath is CVS, which of course isn't XML-enabled but does
> a pretty good
> job of diff-tracking otherwise.  CVS doesn't lock files,
> though it does
> attempt to do intelligent merging if two people have checked
> something
> out.  Also note that CVS doesn't handle storing and diffing
> of binary files
> such as .doc very well (a reason for us to be producing our
> specs in XML or
> at least XHTML!).
> (Norm mentioned that he's still working on making his
> "diffmk" XML-enabled
> differencing program a web service...)
> A note about the issue of storing specifications on
> SourceForge.  Norm
> doesn't "publish" final-HTML-form specifications (which he
> generates from
> XML) out of SourceForge because it seems inappropriate to
> usurp OASIS's
> role in this.  I would tend to agree.  This would mean a
> split in where we
> store stuff, though, and it adds a bit of a management
> burden.  I've copied
> Karl Best for his reaction: Karl, how would you feel about
> our providing
> links from our "Documents" section to a SourceForge page that
> actually
> offers the document for download?
> Finally, one more point and another question for Karl:
> SourceForge itself
> was the first project of SourceForge, and that means it's
> available to be
> installed and used elsewhere!  Is there any chance that OASIS might
> consider hosting a SourceForge site from oasis-open.org?
> My recommendation would be that we go ahead and use
> SourceForge for at
> least schemas, stylesheets, tools, and other code-y stuff,
> and also use its
> issue-tracking feature (which was a B-priority item).  It's
> well used and
> well proven, and I don't see any other obvious choice that meets our
> criteria for being Internet-based and offering access
> control.  However, if
> Dave (the other co-owner of the code management issue) has
> other thoughts,
> I defer...
> 	Eve
> --
> Eve Maler                                    +1 781 442 3190
> Sun Microsystems XML Technology Center   eve.maler @ sun.com

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