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Subject: Minutes of Pacific UBL TC call 23 September 2004


Note that these minutes are not for last week but the week before.

MINUTES OF PACIFIC UBL TC MEETING
00H30 - 02H30 UTC THURSDAY 23 SEPTEMBER 2004
   17h30 - 19h30 Wed San Francisco
   08h30 - 10h30 Thu Hong Kong, Singapore, Perth
   09h30 - 11h30 Thu Seoul, Tokyo, Beijing
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PRESENT

   Jon Bosak (chair)
   Ram Kumar
   G. Ken Holman
   Tim McGrath
   Marion Royal

EVENT REPORT: UN/CEFACT FORUM IN WASHINGTON LAST WEEK

   JB: (repeats report on the UN/CEFACT Forum given in the
   Atlantic call)... We are not trying to recreate UN/CEFACT
   within UBL... (Reports Dick Raman's remarks on UBL at the
   closing plenary: UBL is work that was started in ebXML; it's a
   shortcut to where UN/CEFACT is going and has value for users
   because it's something we can start with today; he will try to
   heal the breach with OASIS and get UBL fully embraced by
   UN/CEFACT so that we can publish a whole slew of deliverables
   usable in the short term; this would help UN/CEFACT because it
   could release something that could be used immediately.)

   JB: ATG2 accepted most of TM's input.  It appears possible that
   UBL may be able to sync with ATG2 versions in 1.1 but no one
   seems to know for sure at this point.

   TM: There are two things here: the names we give things, and
   their attributes.  Agreeing on names may not be possible.  We
   should be aiming for the ability to map from one to the other:
   the only difference should be the names; the meanings and
   values should be the same.

   JB: CEFACT IPR policy: new proposal to change "qualified
   indemnity" to "qualified warranty"... According to the leader
   of these negotiations, it could be a solution.

   MR: TBG17 took submissions... about 98 percent of UBL
   submissions against the [core set of] 21 CCs were
   accepted... Region was not accepted, but this doesn't really
   break anything... The 21 were boiled down to 19, which are now
   published... Next will be looking at 39 additional CCs to be
   rationalized against the original 19... It was a very positive
   week... I echo Jon's [positive] sentiments on the
   reorganization, though in many cases, only one person was
   nominated for each position due to limited resources... Still a
   lot of work to do between UBL and TBG17... Still in process of
   forming the team to help out with this.

STYLESHEET AND XPATH SUPPORT

   GKH: Ready to release stylesheets and XPaths.  (JB: Please wait
   till your return next week so that you can be available to
   answer questions, if any.)

   TM: The mappings to the Layout Key should be the job of the UN.
   (GKH: Agrees.)  The Certificate of Origin would provide an
   occasion for this.

CALENDAR REVIEW

   TM: There may still be an opportunity to host the April/May UBL
   meeting in Australia.

LIAISON REPORTS

   RK: New charter for CIQ for 2004-6; working on 3.0 based on
   feedback from eGov TC; looking at how to apply the new UBL NDRs
   to CIQ; M. Roytman of the Tax XML TC is trying to see if he can
   apply; CIQ Version 3 will have three different name/address
   specifications (Basic, Advanced, and Enterprise), because most
   organizations would prefer a simplified version, while most
   postal service applications need Enterprise.

ADDITION OF NEW ITEMS TO THE WORK LIST

   TM: AI at the TC plenary [in Copenhagen]: Long discussion about
   UN eDocs and their information model for documents in trade and
   transport... Sue said that they would be available.

Jon Bosak
Chair, OASIS UBL TC


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