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Subject: Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 22 June 2005
MINUTES OF ATLANTIC UBL TC MEETING
15H00 - 17H00 UTC WEDNESDAY 22 JUNE 2005
ATTENDANCE
Jon Bosak (chair)
Mikkel Brun
Marty Burns
Tony Coates
Mavis Cournane
Stephen Green
Michael Grimley
Anne Hendry
Zarella Rendon
Kumar Sivaraman
Sylvia Webb
With 10 voting members present out of a current total of 16,
the meeting was quorate!
STANDING ITEMS
Additions to the calendar (http://ibiblio.org/bosak/ubl/calendar.htm)
None.
Liaison reports
None.
Subcommittee report: SSC
StephenG: Just AnneH and StephenG last week; not a proper
meeting. In tomorrow's meeting we will be finalizing
everything for the coming round of schema generation and
informing DavidK that we do need to include ATG2 schemas.
Team report: Code Lists
MartyB: Spoke briefly with MikeG today and clarified that
what needs to be reviewed is the email exchange between
MartyB and TonyC.
ACTION: MavisC and MikeG to review the email exchange
contained in MartyB's message of 25 April and report back in
next week's Atlantic TC call.
MartyB: Will be traveling next week.
MavisC: Spoke to Henry Thompson, who has promised to study
MartyB's questions and get back with a response to Marty and
Mavis by the end of this week.
MartyB: If we can get Henry's solution to work (which we
haven't yet), it would be the obvious choice for a solution
that wouldn't require us to use substitution groups.
Review of Pacific and Europe/Asia calls
ACTION: JonB to send mail to the list noting the importance
of the TC meeting in Ottawa.
No other comments.
REUSABLE ARCHITECTURE
ACTION: TC to review Saito-san's paper on re-architecting
Reusable; JonB to note this in separate mail with invitation
for a preliminary email discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/200505/msg00079.html
ACTION ITEM REVIEW
Note that NDR AIs are listed separately below.
ACTION: JonB to ask for a volunteer to serve as liaison to
TBG17.
Status: Haven't got to this yet; see last week's minutes for
some initial discussion.
ACTION: TC to review the discussion between Marty and Tony in
the package posted by Marty 4/25; this issue to be put on the
agenda for next week's Atlantic call.
Status: See team report above for disposition.
ACTION: MavisC to "review the xml-dev thread regarding redefine
as an alternative to substitution groups and then contact Henry
Thompson for clarification (MartyB could not get Henry's
suggestion to work)." [From minutes of the June 1 Atlantic
call]
Status: See team report above for disposition.
ACTION: MartyB to contact MavisC offline to arrange
participation in next week's NDR editors conference call.
Status: Done.
ACTION: TC to review the SBS package over the next two weeks, with
all comments back to the SBSC by 4 July.
StephenG: No comments have been received so far except
BryanR's request for samples. Might have a few comments of
my own based on early testing.
ACTION: JonB to review the current TC process and determine
whether the SBS should be moved forward as a Committee Draft or
a Committee Specification, the primary requirement being for a
persistent URL.
Status: Pending.
APPROVALS
AGREED that we will proceed with the changes proposed for the
next round of schema programming, including the use of ATG2
CCTS and dependent code list schemas.
UBL 2.0 SCHEDULE
MikkelB: We need to hold to the scheduled approval of UBL 2.0
as an OASIS standard by June 2006.
AGREED to move the meeting tentatively scheduled for the week
of 12 June 2006 to the following week (19-23 June 2006).
[Given summer weather in Asia, I'm wondering now whether we
should move it up to the week of 6 June instead; maybe we can
talk about this again next week.]
ACTION: JonB to contact KRLSC to see whether the June 2006
meeting can be hosted in Seoul.
AGREED that the March 2006 meeting should be held in Brussels
if possible to provide maximum opportunity for participation by
EU stakeholders.
MikkelB: We can default to Copenhagen if necessary.
ACTION: SylviaW to check on the date of the UN/CEFACT plenary
in March 2006 to make sure we don't conflict with that
schedule.
ACTION: JonB to seek a host for a March 2006 meeting in
Brussels.
OTHER BUSINESS
StephenG: The UBL FAQ still talks about UBL 1.1.
ACTION: JonB to revise the FAQ linked from the UBL TC page.
MavisC: UBL members who are their company's representatives to
OASIS should send mail to the OASIS TC Process Subcommittee
asking them to implement a more reasonable criterion for voting
membership.
JonB: Company reps should send mail to
jamie.clark@oasis-open.org requesting that the criterion for
removal from voting membership be raised to three meetings in a
row instead of the present two meetings in a row.
NDR WORK SESSION
NDR Action items from last week:
ACTION: MavisC to send input to MarkC for ATG (see item #6 in
the minutes of the 1 June Eurasia call).
Status: Waiting till Mark returns from vacation.
ACTION: NDR editors to discuss the state of the NDR checklist
[do we keep it or regenerate it when we're done making changes
to the NDR document?].
AGREED: We will remove the checklist from the NDR document
for the time being and regenerate a new version after all
changes have been made for UBL 2.0.
ACTION: NDR editors to discuss DavidK's comments on the
proposed changes and respond on the list with a spreadsheet
that has their responses to his comments; TC to review the
proposed changes together with both sets of comments and be
prepared to give final approval in next week's Atlantic call
[meaning this one].
Status: In today's meeting, we resolved the issues raised by
DavidK and updated the NDR document accordingly with changes
to DOC1 and clarified wording in GXS1.
ACTION: MavisC to provide a change log and an updated NDR
document to the list.
FOR NEXT WEEK'S AGENDA
Resolution of the proposal to re-architect Reusable.
FOR NEXT WEEK'S NDR WORK SESSION
In this week's NDR editor's call, BryanR raised three issues to
be discussed next week: (1) A reconsideration of our
prohibition of XSD ANY, because there are regional laws
requiring the inclusion of specific information, and we need an
extensible content area to handle this; (2) Restrictions on
strings in UBL content to ensure that the content consists of
more than white space, for example through length or minlength
facets; (3) Reconsideration of our prohibition of appinfo,
because there are many cases where one element is conditional
on another; this would give Scehamatron (for example) the data
it needs to do conditional/contextual validation.
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