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Subject: Minutes of Pacific UBL TC call 11|12 July 2005
MINUTES OF PACIFIC UBL TC MEETING 00H30 - 02H30 UTC TUESDAY 12 JULY 2005 ATTENDANCE Jon Bosak (chair) Micah Dubinko Stephen Green Ken Holman Tim McGrath Sylvia Webb STANDING ITEMS Additions to the calendar (http://ibiblio.org/bosak/ubl/calendar.htm) SylviaW: Tax XML meeting September 26; note conflict with both the CEFACT Forum and ASC X12; will probably be at the CEFACT Forum. TimM: 1-5 August TBG17 meeting in Vienna; will attend. Liaison report: CEN/ISSS eInvoicing workshop TimM (channeling for MikkelB): ChristianC attended. This effort appears to be focusing on the Chemical and Engineering industries. Liaison report: CEN/ISSS document modeling workshop TimM (channeling for MikkelB): MikkelB invited people to participate in the eCatalogue workshop organized by DK. His presentation appears to have been well received. Liaison report: CEN/ISSS C-Cat workshop TimM (channeling for MikkelB): This work is focused on syntax-neutral modeling in a way that could complement UBL. We certainly want their input and hope that we can collaborate. Liaison report: Tax XML TC SylviaW: Resource issues dominated the call last week. The TC is very interested in working with UBL but cannot commit yet to attending regular meetings or creating implementation guides. However, they are happy to schedule participation in conference calls to discuss particular subjects and to engage in discussions by email. TimM: For example, Dave Chambers of the Tax XML TC will be attending this week's Eurasia TC call to discuss tax-related issues. Subcommittee report: HISC KenH: Nothing to report; next meeting tomorrow evening. Very glad to see that Zarella will be attending the meeting in Ottawa. JonB: So we will make HISC its own track at that meeting. KenH: Have we finalized the list of new docs for the extended process model? TimM: The only feedback received on version 0.9 has been editorial, so the list looks solid. Will send out a version 1.0 after this call. JonB: So we will sign off on the extended process model during this week's Eurasia and Atlantic calls. ACTION: Last call for TC to review version 1.0 of the plan. Subcommittee report: SSC StephenG: Should soon have the GEFEG work done for Ottawa. SylviaW: DavidK is hoping to have new schemas to the list this Friday. Team report: Transportation TimM: Didn't meet last week but will meet this Friday to establish a regular call schedule and start incorporating the DTTN contributions. ACTION: Transportation team to decide whether the DTTN contribution is a PR opp for them. Team report: Procurement TimM: Finalized the extended process model last week and discussed how to start development. The team will meet next Friday. TimM will meet with OGC and IDA over the next couple of weeks. Review of Eurasia and Atlantic TC minutes The group continued the discussion of Reusable noted in the Atlantic TC minutes. It appears that earlier concerns regarding the proposal would not apply if the changes were restricted to the structure of the spreadsheets. AGREED that we will divide the spreadsheets as proposed by Saito-san using the terminology proposed by JonB with the understanding that we will adhere to CCTS, populate the "context" columns in the spreadsheets, and not change the structure of the schemas. AGREED that we will use the term "context-specific libraries" in generic references to the Transportation Library and the Procurement Library. We understand from Saito-san's proposal that any element used in more than one context will always be put in the (non-context-specific) Common Library (though not all elements in the Common Library will necessarily be used in more than one context-specific library). ACTION: JonB to put these decisions on the agenda for this week's Atlantic call. TimM: The NDR team should think about whether to extend this division to the schema level as well. JonB: So noted. REVIEW OF ACTION ITEMS FROM LAST MEETING (28 JUNE) PENDING ACTION: StephenG to provide an SBS timeline for the UBL 2.0 schedule. StephenG: Done, and have also produced a phase 0 SBS invoice. PENDING ACTION: JonB to schedule a discussion of CCTS compliance that will include MarkC and MichaelD. Status: This is waiting MarkC's return from vacation. The question (which arose out of email) is: in what way is 1.0 not CCTS compliant, and how can we ensure that 2.0 is compliant? Issues include ACCs and CC types. TimM: This still needs to happen. UBL was an early adopter working way ahead of CEFACT's ability to answer questions about this. JonB: Maybe this is a question for TMG. AGREED that MarkC and MichaelD need to agree on whether UBL is or is not CCTS compliant. PENDING ACTION: To schedule the preparation of spreadsheets for Tax XML after we see the outcome of the Tax XML TC meeting this week [the week of 27 June]. StephenG: Have completed the SBS Invoice spreadsheet and now need their input. ACTION: SylviaW to convey the SBS Invoice to the Tax XML TC and solicit their feedback. PENDING ACTION: SylviaW to produce a row on "Tax XML TC collaboration" for inclusion in the UBL 2.0 schedule before the Pacific call 11|12 July. SylviaW: Could not complete this due to the Tax XML TC's inability to commit resources at the present time. We will need to revisit this in October. PENDING ACTION: SylviaW to find out where we stand with payment terms and payment means, TimM to respond to Oriol. TimM: Done. SylviaW's research established that we had not dealt with this as we thought, so it has been added to the content issues list. In the process, SylviaW determined that a ubl-dev thread started by Constantine Wasco regarding transportation elements is relevant to UBL 2.0, and those comments have therefore been added to the content issues list. OTHER BUSINESS SylviaW: Spoke to BettyH regarding the EF librarian role; she continues to be interested, so we will need to contact her as soon as the spreadsheets are ready to be entered. ACTION: KenH to provide logistical details for the meeting next month in Ottawa. TimM and StephenG note that they will participate in the Ottawa meeting by phone. JonB noted that MarkC has indicated that he will be doing the same. CONTENT WORK SESSION StephenG has sent out the latest version of the content issues list (11 July). ACTION: JonB to communicate the change in ownership of the issues list to BettyH. Responsibility for creating initial document models for the extended procurement process has been assigned as follows: - Sourcing collaboration documents will be drafted by the DK group - Fulfillment collaboration documents will be drafted by the Asian group - Billing documents will be drafted by StephenG - Payment documents will be drafted by SylviaW StephenG will now prototype the extended Invoice and the Credit Note so that we can finalize those models on this call next week (i.e., far enough so that the other teams can develop doc types based on the same principles). ACTION: StephenG to distribute drafts of Invoice and Credit Note to the list for discussion. Jon Bosak Chair, OASIS UBL TC
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