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Subject: Minutes for Europe/Asia TC meeting Wednesday 31st August
Attendees: Mikkel Brun Sue Probert Michael Dill Peter Borresen Tim McGrath 1. STANDING ITEMS Additions to the calendar (http://ibiblio.org/bosak/ubl/calendar.htm) Sue: TBG 17 will meet October 31 - November 4th in Copenhagen and also February 13 to Febraury 17th 2006 in Washington ATG2 will meet sometime in January 2006 in Australia TMG will also meet sometime in January 2006 in Australia Liaison reports Noted that the TaxXML position paper was distributed Subcommittee reports (including the new Procurement and Transportation SCs) Procurement SC will try and complete the model loading into EDIFIX this week (we think we are 1 week behind the schedule) Transportation SC are working on merging the two models and removing unnecessary structures from the DTTN model. Team reports Catalogue team will report weekly on progress Review of Asia/Pacific and Atlantic TC minutes No comment 2. CONTENT WORK * Document Models status Peter B has completed and distributed the draft 2.0 extended procurement models Sylvia is loading them into EDIFIX and will instruct Betty on how to do maintenance Michael raised some concerns about the content of the procurement models: a. how will we deal with "standalone" BBIEs (those not define as re-usable)? Tim suggested we define these in the Common Basic Component schema but Michael sought a modelling level solution. Agreed to continue the discussion offline until we had defined a position for the TC to consider. b. How can we have multiple definitions for "Party" (eg BuyerParty, SellerParty and Party)? This appears to be a question of whether we want to extend ABIEs when we re-use them (BuyerParty extends Party) or only allow restriction (Party must contain all BBIEs and BuyerParty is then a restriction). Tim suggested it was acadmeic for UBL 2.0 as we had to support exist extensions. The question of whether we should allow only extension, only restriction or both was unresolved. Sue noted that CEFACT have adopted a "only restriction" approach to their models. c. Michael made a point that the GS1 catalogue/pricelist models were worthy of consideration. Tim noted that a representative from GS1 had participated in the Copenhagen workshop and contributed many useful ideas. We had to adapt these to fit in with UBL 1.0 (and now 2.0) models as well. schedule We will try and gain back some slippage in the schema generation stage as initial tests appear promising. 3. NDR WORK NDR issues for review in tomorrow's meetings. * code lists It was noted that any comments on the new NDR document are due now. Michael raised a concern about the decision to adopt ATG2 Unqualified data types meant the modeling of these was outside UBL's control. He felt this meant that other implementations of CCTS may not be interoperble becaseu UBL releied on schema level compatibility rather than conceptual level. Tim suggested that we had delegated low grained models (like Date, Time, Code, etc..) as data types to CEFACT becasue we hoped every XML implementation of CCTS would use the same schemas. We now considered our models stopped at that level. 4. Other items none -- regards tim mcgrath phone: +618 93352228 postal: po box 1289 fremantle western australia 6160 DOCUMENT ENGINEERING: Analyzing and Designing Documents for Business Informatics and Web Services http://mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/item/default.asp?sid=632C40AB-4E94-4930-A94E-22FF8CA5641F&ttype=2&tid=10476
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