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Subject: Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 12 October 2005
MINUTES OF ATLANTIC UBL TC MEETING 15H00 - 17H00 UTC WEDNESDAY 12 OCTOBER 2005 ATTENDANCE Peter Borresen Jon Bosak (chair) Mikkel Brun Marty Burns Christian Christensen Tony Coates Mavis Cournane Mark Crawford Stephen Green Mike Grimley Tim McGrath Zarella Rendon Andy Schoka Paul Thorpe Sylvia Webb STANDING ITEMS Additions to the calendar: http://ibiblio.org/bosak/ubl/calendar.htm It was noted that next Saturday is Smokeybunny's second birthday. MarkC: ATG: F2F the week of Jan 16 in Wollongong; June, ATG meeting, location TBD MikkelB: 25 Nov UK EU presidency eGov conference; will present on Danish case study and UBL in track on eprocurement. Also PSC F2F in Copenhagen on Friday. JB: Gave a UBL presentation yesterday to the New England Electronic Commerce Users' Group; seemed to be well received. Liason report: ebBP TC SG: Was asked yesterday in ebBP whether there are further thoughts on "logical documents." ebBP treats a doc as a state or a trigger, something that symbolizes something in a process; so it's not particularly interested so much in the use of a particular standard as in what it signifies in terms of the process. In order for UBL to wk in that sort of requirement, there needs to be some concession to the document-oriented approach, so SG is asking to ebBP to add an attribute for (for example) the SBS in addition to pointing to a UBL doc. The ebBP are asking for examples where UBL might work better in the ebBP contexts. See SG mail from a few days ago; TimM responded, and they have had a few other inputs offline. They asked SG to request more input in this meeting. Liaison report: TC154 MarkC: Plenary: included UBL update... Big things out of the meeting: - Resolutions targeted at oasis, specifically wrt OASIS participation in workings of TC154 and need to keep ISO versions of standards in lockstep with OASIS - WRT submission of standards for fast tracking, TC154 recognizes the MoU as [stating that] CEFACT is the developer of business content, so would not take submissions such as the UBL library or the OAGIS library for fast tracking; note that this would not preclude UBL from submitting the UBL NDRs as an ISO standard The issue of an ISO semantic vocabulary was also discussed. CCTS is now a joint activity of CEFACT (Gunther Stuhec) and TC154 (MarkC and Mary Kay Blantz). Liaison report: UN/CEFACT Forum in Lyon MarkC: Klaus von Riegen, director of web services standards at SAP, gave a presentation on SAP perspective on CEFACT in which he publicly stated that SAP is using CEFACT CC's and CEFACT NDRs in their enterprise services. This is an endorsement of the methodology that we have been building UBL on. The presentation is available from the CEFACT Forum website (disa.org, then select CEFACT on the left). Subcommittee reports: HISC, SBSC, PSC, TSC JB: See Pacific minutes. Team report: Code lists TonyC: Have been sick this week, so little progress. GKH sent a question, but haven't had a chance to look at it. MartyB: Has the group discussed a reference set of documents? JB: It's in the minutes that I haven't had time to put out yet. MartyB: We need to agree on a reference set of docs so that we can demo the solution and develop a regression test. Team report: Digital signatures PB: Have received a reply from Kama... Still clarifying the requirements. Note that the digsig methodology must be aligned with PSC as well as TSC. We hope to have a proposal on 10/24. JB: We need to stage a discussion on this across the SCs when the content work is done, during public review of the schemas. Team report: Catalogue TM: Today was the first day of the two-day workshop. Still on track to sync with PSC. A good meeting that included participants from France and Italy. TM to SW: Any progress with schema generation? SW: Waiting for corrected spreadsheets. SG will be doing a tech reveiw of all the SSs. Can't create models from what I have; need the work on qualified schema finished. TM: PB and I will get something to you tomorrow. Review of Pacific and Europe/Asia calls JB: Apologize again for falling behind with the minutes. Schedule review JB: (Gives verbal review of milestones in revised schedule for the normative pieces) ACTION ITEM REVIEW ACTION: BR to contact MavisC with input from Denmark regarding minor versioning. Done. ACTION: TC members visiting NYC in October or November to check out the Sun facilities and see whether they are suitable for a UBL TC meeting. JB will be coming through in mid-November and will also check then. Pending. ACTION: NDR editors to discuss minor versioning in email; MavisC to set up the discussion for this week. See AI at end of these minutes. ACTION: TimM to send email to get some examples from Sweden showing use of code lists (as attributes, as elements, etc.) TimM: Did ask, and TonyC has received a response; done. FOR THIS MEETING UNUBL preliminary plan After a lengthy discussion, the TC resolved as follows: AGREED: To proceed on the basis of the preliminary strategy and action plan outlined in the 6 October document from Mark Palmer and to authorize the creation of a detailed plan to be further reviewed. Minor versioning ACTION: NDR editors to consult and then post a message to kick off a discussion next week. Jon Bosak Chair, OASIS UBL TC
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