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Subject: Re: [ubl] Comments to UBL V2.0 main specification (CS sanity check 4) by JPLSC
Good morning, Saito, I too have reviewed your formatting comments. At 2006-10-13 08:07 -0700, jon.bosak@sun.com wrote: >With regard to your comments about style, please understand that >we are now using the OASIS DocBook templates to generate the HTML >output from an XML original. In other words, the document itself >(UBL-2.0.xml) has no inherent output format; the format is >provided by the standard DocBook stylesheets as modified by OASIS >for OASIS publications. Consequently, we no longer have control >over the appearance of the document. For example, the placement >of figure titles is dictated by the OASIS DocBook stylesheets, not >by us. Therefore the formatting issues you raise must be >addressed by OASIS for all of its DocBook-based publications. It happens I am the one collecting requirements for modifications to the DocBook-based publishing of OASIS specifications, and I will make note of your desire for the figure title placement to be after the figure, and I will compare this requirement with the other layouts available for OASIS specifications. To date very little feedback has been reported regarding the DocBook presentation of OASIS specifications, and I would value any further observations JPLSC may wish to make on the OASIS stylesheets used by UBL. The current version of these OASIS stylesheets can be found at: http://docs.oasis-open.org/templates/DocBook/spec-0.4/ The version as used by the UBL-2.0.xml hypertext document can be found in the db/ subdirectory of the UBL 2.0 release directory. I anticipate releasing a revised version of the OASIS stylesheets based on feedback received. >I see nothing that would prevent the JPLSC >from implementing its formatting suggestions in its own >publication of the specification. I believe that this would apply >even to the HTML version, as it, too, is just a generated artifact >of the XML document. Perhaps JPLSC members such as Justsystem can >approach this task as an interesting technical challenge. Note that the JPLSC can utilize the stylesheet modules provided in the db/ directory of UBL-2.0 and create your own customization layer. To do this you would create, say, UBL-2.0-JPLSC-html.xsl and import the UBL-2.0-html.xsl stylesheet. Note there is a parameterization of the placement of titles that you can, then, specialize in your customization layer: http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/doc/html/formal.title.placement.html As Jon says, this would merely be your projection of the standardized XML document in a customized presentation. >With regard specifically to your comment about possible ISO >publication, I agree that there are problems here, but they are >much more extensive than perhaps you are aware. Note a number of publishing problems you cite I understand are related to figure dimensions, which would probably simply require resampling the diagrams at a different resolution. This does not, however, address legibility, and future revisions of the documents may require some diagrams to be redrawn to address limitations in dimensions. I hope this helps understand some of the issues you have brought to light. . . . . . . . . . . Ken -- UBL/XSLT/XSL-FO training: Allerød/Vårø Denmark 2006-11-13,17,20/24 UBL International 2006 2006-11-13/17 http://www.ublconference.com World-wide corporate, govt. & user group UBL, XSL, & XML training. G. Ken Holman mailto:gkholman@CraneSoftwrights.com Crane Softwrights Ltd. http://www.CraneSoftwrights.com/o/ Box 266, Kars, Ontario CANADA K0A-2E0 +1(613)489-0999 (F:-0995) Male Cancer Awareness Aug'05 http://www.CraneSoftwrights.com/o/bc Legal business disclaimers: http://www.CraneSoftwrights.com/legal
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