Re: [ubl] docbook of NDR, etc

[stephen.green@systml.co.uk]

(cc Sue Probert with respect to eDocs idea below)


Also, has anyone thought of mapping UBL instances to docbook?
If there were a docbook profile which facilitated such mapping
it might help in standardizing UBL human interface representation.
A thought for HISC?

Plus, has anyone thought of standardizing a tabular representation
of, say, UN edocs (as alternative to absolute positioning on a page).
Then UBL could be mapped to that. Maybe that's one for UN/CEFACT:
Say in Invoice the Invoice Number is positioned in cell B2, the
Invoice date in cell D2, the labels adjacent, etc. It could work
just as well with spreadsheets as with HTML or CALS tables, etc
and therefore could facilitate Invoice representation in docbook
and mappings to UBL, CEFACT documents, etc.

Best regards

  Stephen Green

  Partner
  SystML, http://www.systml.co.uk
  Tel: +44 (0) 117 9541606

  http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew+22:37 .. and voice


> Hi Betty
>
> Many thanks. Those links could be very useful, thanks.
>
> Indeed, we have two folk from NIST on TAG TC so the
> synergy could work well, hopefully.
>
> I'd be interested to see what similarities there might be
> between any possible mappings of a model for test assertions
> we are developing (with NIST involvement) and docbook -
> similarities that might materialize between that possibility
> and your UBL NDR work with XSLT and docbook. Maybe a
> mapping from test assertions to docbook and from there the
> possible use of Ken's XSLT to human interface output would
> be a nice way to go.
>
> Best regards and thanks again
>
> -- 
> Stephen Green
>
> Partner
> SystML, http://www.systml.co.uk
> Tel: +44 (0) 117 9541606
>
> http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew+22:37 .. and voice
>
>
>
> Quoting harvey <harvey@eccnet.com>:
>
>> Hi Stephen:
>>
>> I don't know if you are familiar with the work that is being done at
>> NIST on a tool for validating schema's against NDR rules.  The tools
>> is called "Quality of Design" or QOD (http://sourceforge.net/projects/qod/).
>>
>> You might want to take a look at the tool - I think you might find it
>> very useful.
>>
>> I have been working with NIST in developing user requirements and
>> schema design.  We have developed a schema we are calling (NDRProfile).
>> The profile schema provides the ability to author a subset of the
>> NDR for importing and exporting rules in an out of QOD.  QOD provides
>> the ability to encode the rules in both Schematron or JESS.
>>
>> The conversion of the UBL NDR Word document went pretty smoothly because
>> Mike and Mavis did an excellent job of maintaining Word styles.  They
>> also had uniform styles that allowed me to convert the Docbook UBL into
>> an NDRProfile.
>>
>> If you are interested in any of these files I have them available at:
>>
>> http://ecc02.eccnet.com/ndr/UBLNDR/UBLNDR/
>>
>> The file "UBL-NDR-Docbook-20070207.xml" is the full NDR.  The file
>> "UBL-NDR-Profile.xml" file is the file that is used to import the UBL
>> profile to QOD.  The NDRProfile schema is in the process of being
>> modified because of modifications that is being made to QOD to support
>> import/export of NDRProfile.
>>
>> The PDF file in this directory was created using Ken Holman's Docbook
>> to OASIS PDF stylesheet for XSL-FO.
>>
>> If you have any questions or ideas, please let me know.  There may
>> possibly be some synergy with what you are doing and what NIST is
>> doing with QOD.
>>
>> Betty
>>
>>
>>> An aside regarding the docbook of NDR: I'm working a bit with TAG TC
>>> which involves looking at best practices and examples of specification
>>> approaches (as precursors to documenting 'test assertions' - precursors
>>> in turn to test cases which software producers would develop) and
>>> it is very interesting a) how UBL have developed the NDR and its
>>> checklist and b) how this has been represented in docbook.
>>> Would UBL TC object at all to my using the NDR format, checklist and
>>> docbook representations, perhaps, as examples for some of the TAG TC
>>> work? It might be that this will help with considerations of how test
>>> assertion guidelines/lists as well as specifications such as the NDR.
>>> Maybe this will in turn inspire some ideas about how to represent an
>>> NDR such as UBL's as a list of test assertions such as those in a format
>>> the TAG TC hope to specify and describe.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> --
>>> Stephen Green
>>>
>>> Partner
>>> SystML, http://www.systml.co.uk
>>> Tel: +44 (0) 117 9541606
>>>
>>> http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew+22:37 .. and voice
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Quoting harvey <harvey@eccnet.com>:
>>>
>>>> Your right Mike - my mistake.  I actually converted 2 versions of
>>>> the NDR and I was looking at the 7/19/2007 versaion and the last
>>>> version was 2/7/2007.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for keeping me straight!
>>>>
>>>> Betty
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [CDL4] was removed some time ago (prior to your docbook conversion of
>>>>> the
>>>>> NDR).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: harvey [mailto:harvey@eccnet.com]
>>>>> Sent: Monday, 17 September 2007 1202
>>>>> To: ubl@lists.oasis-open.org
>>>>> Subject: [ubl] Codelist Question
>>>>>
>>>>> Are we (meaning UBL) officially using Genericode?  The NDR hasn't been
>>>>> modified to reflect the ability to use it:
>>>>>
>>>>> [CDL4]	All UBL maintained or used Code Lists MUST be enumerated using
>>>>> the
>>>>> UBL Code List Schema Module.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Betty
>>>>>
>>>>>
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