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Subject: Incoterms (was: Re: [ubl] Minutes of Pacific UBL TC call 5|6 May 2008)
[roberto@javest.com:] | is the following UN/ECE recommendation allowing us to include the | Incoterms 2000 code list into UBL 2.1 ? | | UNE/CE Rec 05 | http://www.unece.org/cefact/recommendations/rec05/rec05_ecetrd259.pdf Based on two hours of research, I now think that Roberto is right in saying that we can include the Incoterms code list. We just need to be clear on what we mean by that. I see four things at issue here: the Incoterms themselves; the three-letter abbreviations of the Incoterms; the composite you get when an Incoterm abbreviation is followed by the name of a place, port, or destination and then the tag "Incoterms 2000"; and the Preambles that define in detail the legal implications of each Incoterm. Example Incoterm: FREE ON BOARD Example abbreviation: FOB Example composite: FOB Liverpool Incoterms 2000 Example Preamble: "Free on Board" means that the seller delivers when the goods pass the ship's rail at the named port of shipment. This means that the buyer has to bear all costs and risks of loss of or damage to the goods from that point. The FOB term requires the seller to clear the goods for export. [etc.] The Incoterms site confuses these different things when it says, for example, that "Incoterms need revising periodically." What it means is that the Preambles need revising periodically. As far as I can tell, the thirteen Incoterms and their three-letter abbreviations have not changed for over half a century -- probably longer. The answer to the question, "Can we include an Incoterms code list in UBL?" depends on what we mean by "code list" and whether we mean legal ability or mechanical ability. If by "Incoterms code list" we mean a genericode version of the following: CFR / COST AND FREIGHT / COUT ET FRET CIF / COST, INSURANCE AND FREIGHT / COUT, ASSURANCE ET FRET CIP / CARRIAGE AND INSURANCE PAID TO / PORT PAYE, ASSURANCE COMPRISE, JUSQU'A CPT / CARRIAGE PAID TO / PORT PAYE JUSQU'A DAF / DELIVERED AT FRONTIER / RENDU FRONTIERE DDP / DELIVERED DUTY PAID / RENDU DROITS ACQUITTES DDU / DELIVERED DUTY UNPAID / RENDU DROITS NON ACQUITTES DEQ / DELIVERED EX QUAY / RENDU A QUAI DES / DELIVERED EX SHIP / RENDU EX SHIP EXW / EX WORKS / A L'USINE FAS / FREE ALONG SHIP / FRANCO LE LONG DU NAVIRE FCA / FREE CARRIER / FRANCO TRANSPORTEUR FOB / FREE ON BOARD / FRANCO BORD then I believe the answer is yes, we can include it in UBL, because this list is taken (by me) from the table printed in UNECE Recommendation No. 5, "ABBREVIATIONS OF INCOTERMS: Alphabetic Code for Incoterms 2000" (ECE/TRADE/259, Geneva, May 2000). I note in passing that the table in ECE/TRADE/259 is identical to that given in ECE/TRADE/202 (Geneva, January 1996); the latter also provides the following handy alternative text: EXW - EX WORKS FCA - FREE CARRIER FAS - FREE ALONGSIDE SHIP FOB - FREE ON BOARD CFR - COST AND FREIGHT CIF - COST, INSURANCE AND FREIGHT CPT - CARRIAGE PAID TO (named place) CIP - CARRIAGE AND INSURANCE PAID TO (named place) DAF - DELIVERED AT FRONTIER DES - DELIVERED EX SHIP DEQ - DELIVERED EX QUAI DDU - DELIVERED DUTY UNPAID DDP - DELIVERED DUTY PAID If, on the other hand, we mean by "Incoterms code list" a genericode version of all possible composites (abbreviations x places + "Incoterms 2000"), then I think the answer is yes, we legally can, but do we really want to? It seems to me that the resulting code list would be about 13 times as large as the portcode list, which already takes up about 47 MB of disk space. If we've modeled this in a way that requires the code element to contain an entire composite, then it looks like we've got a problem, but if so, it's a mechanical one, not a legal one. From Roberto's note, however, it seems that we've divided this information between cac:DeliveryTerms/cbc:ID (specific examples: CIF, FOB, EXW) and cac:DeliveryTerms/cac:DeliveryLocation/cbc:ID, so unless I'm missing something, we're fine with this. We just need to add a gc version of the thirteen-item list above to the set of code lists in 2.1. I don't have time today to look into Roberto's second question regarding commodity codes, but I'll post something when I get the chance. Jon
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