Re: [ubl] Newly detected backward compatibility error - TransportContract

["Arianna Brutti" <arianna.brutti@enea.it>]

Hi Ken,

I analized your proposals and my opinion is as follows: I don't like 
solutions B and D, because of the problems that you described.

 From my point of view A solution is the best, so I agree with 
Roberto, but I think also that the C solution could be acceptable.

I am going to wait for your final decision before to act.

Best regards

Arianna



il Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:40:46 +0200 (CEST)
  "Roberto Cisternino" <roberto@javest.com> ha scritto:
> Ok Ken,
> 
> forget sub-contracts now, also it is not viable as this addition 
>would
> require a party too.
> 
> I vote for (A) as nomination and delivery date are common concepts 
>to
> transportation, constructions, ...
> 
> I really prefere we enhance the actual base Contract for these new 
>info.
> 
> Roberto
> 
>> At 2010-07-22 16:27 +0200, Roberto Cisternino wrote:
>>>I have a business question on this topic.
>>>
>>>For which reason we are going to use a specific "Transport Contract"
>>> class
>>>over the generic "Contract" class ?
>>
>> Yes, the answer to that is critical to the direction we choose to 
>>take.
>>
>>> From the information below I do not see a valid reason.  I mean the
>>>following information seems to me still related to *any* contract and
>>>sub-contract.
>>>
>>>So I would see a more simple solution where we just update the actual
>>>cac:Contract by adding "NominationPeriod" and "ContractualDelivery" 
>>>at
>>> the
>>>end of its structure.
>>
>> Yes, this is my proposed solution (A) to this problem.  All the more
>> reason if they are not specific to transportation as I was worried 
>>they
>> were.
>>
>> A note to the TSC:  the existing Contract has only optional
>> constructs so it would seem that (A) would meet your users needs by
>> leaving the "old" constructs absent and only using the new 
>>constructs
>> you have defined.
>>
>>>Moreover I would suggest to add a Sub-Contract (0..n) too.
>>
>> Can we please leave that question to the response to PRD01?  I know
>> it is a simple change but at this (very!) late stage to prepare 
>>PRD01
>> for review I would like to restrict discussions only to things that
>> at this moment are broken or unresolved.
>>
>> . . . . . . . . . . . Ken
>>
>>> > At 2010-07-18 22:02 -0400, I wrote:
>>> >><cac:TransportContract> is obliged to contain at
>>> >>least the old children, but it is allowed to
>>> >>have new optional children.  I see three ways to fix this:
>>> >>
>>> >>(A) We could add the new items to the old
>>> >><Contract> but they aren't related to contracts
>>> >>in general, only to transportation
>>> >>contracts.  But that isn't so bad since users
>>> >>are already used to finding things in objects that they don't 
>>>need.
>>
>>
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