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Subject: Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 21 November 2012 17:00UTC
MINUTES OF ATLANTIC UBL TC TELECONFERENCE WEDNESDAY 21 NOVEMBER 2012 17:00UTC ATTENDANCE Oriol Bausa Kenneth Bengtsson Peter Borresen Kees Duvekot G. Ken Holman (convener) Referred to in minutes by first name: Arianna Brutti Martin Forsberg Tim McGrath Jim Melton Andy Schoka Audun Vennesland STANDING ITEMS Additions to the calendar: http://ubl.xml.org/events For interest (but not on the calendar): 2012-12-14 Seminar on Electronic Procurement - An opportunity to provide feedback on Commission projects http://ec.europa.eu/internal_market/publicprocurement/e-procurement/conferences/index_en.htm Review of Pacific call minutes (copied below as agenda items) https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201211/msg00025.html Review of Atlantic call minutes https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201211/msg00009.html Membership status review https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#membership https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=ubl https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ubl/members/roster.php?num_items=80 Please try to attend and gain voting status in preparation for the important committee process steps coming up. UBL 2.1 PRD3 DEFINITION REVIEW Actions from previous meetings: 2012-11-14 - all - draft spreadsheet to Ken H. - done Status of PSC definition review. When will final changes go to Ken H.? - should be December 1 - good task to do as issues of cardinality have been found Status of TSC definition review. When will final changes go to Ken H.? - Andy observed that definition review of those business objects where thecardinality might have to change in the model is more important (time-wise)
to the other definitions. It was noted that any changes in cardinality will require yet another issue of the schemas. AGREED that whatever definitions we have in place on December 1, 2012 are the definitions that we will use for PRD3. Andy also noted the need for expertise on customs issues. If anyone can specifically help with these issues, please contact TSC. Ref: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-tsc/201211/msg00001.html UBL 2.1 PRD3 HUBDOC Actions from previous meetings: 2012-11-14 - Ken H. - revise Acknowledgements list with latest affiliations in OASIS roster https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201211/msg00022.html - done 2012-11-14 - all - production guidance for "uml/" directory - Tim reports an upgrade to the UML model of XML Spy that may do what we want2012-11-14 - Ken H. - contact Jim, Martin and Audun regarding an SQL tool
- done; no response UBL 2.1 PRD3 Model Status of PSC model work. When will final changes to go Arianna? - spent meeting in Barcelona with new issues regarding CEN/BII2 that have been incorporated into the changes - another PSC meeting will be called for next week Status of TSC model work: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201211/msg00023.html (Note the comment above regarding possible changes in cardinalities after a definition review) Status of request from Turkish Localization: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-comment/201211/msg00000.html - added to the PSC agenda for the next PSC meeting Code list review: Ken H. posted the list of expected code list files to be in UBL 2.1, and the source of information for each. For those lists not sourced by UN/CEFACT web sites, please advise if anyone knows where definitive sources can be found. https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201211/msg00015.html https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201211/msg00017.html Tim observed that we need to add a code list for days of the week. Does any member know of such a standardized code list? Important question for PSC and TSC both to consider regarding addition of PartyRoleCode to the definition of a Party: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201211/msg00027.html - Kees commented that the context of the Party provides sufficient distinction so as not to require the addition of PartyRole, and this was agreed to by Oriol - Ken H. to email Peter to ask him to comment on the TC list - members asked to further comment on the TC list without cross-posting to the other lists Ken H. to produce SGTG PRD3 draft schemas for review when models are done and will use December 1 definitions. - Kees noted that http://www.schemacentral.com/sc/ubl21/ss.html has a copy of PRD2 posted according to Schema Central conventions and that he finds these conventions make for a useful resource ACTION SUMMARY 2012-11-14 - all - production guidance needed for "uml/" directory 2012-11-21 - all - does anyone know of a code list for days of the week? 2012-11-21 - all - customs guidance needed for TSC 2012-11-21 - Ken H. - contact Peter regarding Party discussion TC CONCALL SCHEDULE Established in last week's meetings: New Pacific call date/time: Wednesdays 01:00UTC New Atlantic call date/time: Wednesdays 17:00UTC Question to Atlantic call members: would an earlier or later time be more convenient in order to avoid the dinner hour, thus increasing Atlantic call attendance? - this question is deferred for a few weeks and will be brought up later - it was noted that 15:00UTC is not the best for everyone but is better than the current time of 17:00UTC for more people than not - we will look into this time change sometime in December but not now (Note the Pacific call takes place Tuesday evenings west of the Atlantic Ocean) Week of 2012-11-26 - Regular calls Week of 2012-12-03 - Regular calls Week of 2012-12-10 - Regular calls Week of 2012-12-17 - Regular calls Week of 2012-12-24 - no calls Week of 2012-12-31 - no calls Week of 2013-01-07 - TBD during week of 2012-12-17 OTHER BUSINESS During the call a question of IPR regarding CEN/BII was raised. Oriol will take the issue to BII WG1 for clarification: how open for free use are the BII schemas, code lists, documentation and other artefacts? -- Contact us for world-wide XML consulting and instructor-led training Free 5-hour lecture: http://www.CraneSoftwrights.com/links/udemy.htm Crane Softwrights Ltd. http://www.CraneSoftwrights.com/o/ G. Ken Holman mailto:gkholman@CraneSoftwrights.com Google+ profile: https://plus.google.com/116832879756988317389/about Legal business disclaimers: http://www.CraneSoftwrights.com/legal
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