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Subject: Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 7 January 2015 15:00UTC
MINUTES OF ATLANTIC UBL TC TELECONFERENCE WEDNESDAY 7 January 2015 15:00UTC
ATTENDANCE
Atlantic teleconference:
Oriol Bausa
Peter Borresen
Kees Duvekot
G. Ken Holman (convener)
Ole Madsen
Andy Schoka
Pacific teleconference attendance:
Kenneth Bengtsson
G. Ken Holman (convener)
Andy Schoka
STANDING ITEMS
Additions to events calendar: http://ubl.xml.org/events
- no events to add at this time
Review of Pacific call minutes
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201501/msg00002.html
Review of Atlantic call minutes
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201412/msg00011.html
Membership status review
https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#membership
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=ubl
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ubl/members/roster.php?num_items=80
- voting status is determined by the following:
- existing voting members must not miss two consecutive meetings to
maintain voting status
- non-voting members must attend two consecutive meetings to obtain
voting status
- committee officers (alphabetical):
- Jon Bosak (secretary)
- G. Ken Holman (co-chair)
- Tim McGrath (co-chair)
- current voting member list (alphabetical):
- Oriol Bausa
- Kenneth Bengtsson
- Peter Borresen
- Kees Duvekot
- Martin Forsberg
- G. Ken Holman
- Ole Madsen
- Tim McGrath
- Andy Schoka
- members approaching losing voting status:
- Tim McGrath
- members losing voting status:
- Martin Forsberg
- what can we do to recruit more volunteers to the TC to share in the work?
JIRA tickets
https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=11670 (note that this filter
provides more information when the user is logged in to JIRA
than when not)
- Tim to add ticket for "required document distribution" for Waybill
- Tim to add ticket to track IFTM mapping process
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-12
- Tim to create cover document text as simple paragraphs and mapping
specifications in a spreadsheet attachment
- Ken will work with the template that arrived just before the Atlantic
call
- Tim added a ticket to track discussions with WCO
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-13
Web site maintenance (committee web site or UBL.xml.org)
- committee site:
- thanks to Jon for updating the TC home page:
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ubl
- the question arose regarding how to get email notifications of postings
made to UBL.xml.org
- Tim to find ways for UBL.xml.org to feed social media
- UBL.xml.org needs to revisit the editorial board members and their
section assignments
- http://ubl.xml.org/editorial-board-and-editorial-policies
- please notify Ken and Tim of your interest in helping
- once we get new participants we will meet to discuss revamping the
site
- how better to get a higher profile on the www.oasis-open.org web site?
- how can we position UBL to make it easier for people looking for
it without knowing its name, emphasizing it is an eBusiness standard
ISO/IEC DIS 19845 Universal Business Language Version 2.1 (UBL v2.1)
- as of the posting of this agenda the stage remains at 40.60
http://www.iso.org/iso/home/store/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=66370
- OASIS has forwarded to JTC 1 the proposed disposition of
comments and OASIS
is awaiting the response from JTC 1
Human Interface Subcommittee (HISC) revival
- Peter to continue creating specifications using his spreadsheet approach
- defining the box locations of the UN Layout Key forms
- mapping UBL elements to the box locations
- Peter and Ken to independently develop implementations to test the
specifications
- tested specifications to be published by HISC as a Committee Note for
others to use
Schema Generation Task Group
- Ole and Ken to draft straw-man approach to the development of new
revisions to UBL based on the submissions of interested parties
- Tim and Oriol have been approached to contribute towards the straw-man
before drafts are published for committee review
- tracking this as https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-11
- Ken will work with the template that arrived just before the Atlantic
call
- Ken has recently posted the availability of new and revised free tools
for generating XSD schemas here:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-dev/201412/msg00012.html
UBL Naming and Design Rules
- Ken has posted Committee Specification Draft 01 for review and discussion
at:
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=54824
- questions are posted for feedback based on some input:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201501/msg00004.html
- tracking this as https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-6
Business Document Header/Envelope
- the draft work needs to be revived and put through the process towards
a committee specification early in 2015
- in the new year we will discuss how to progress this work item
- tracking this as https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-10
- Kees commented that this subject matter is outside of the document focus
of UBL and UBL is independent of the header/envelope used for UBL
documents and so this project really should be under BDXR TC in order
to be arms-length from the document format
- Kees and Ken are both available to support BDXR TC in the work if it
is only a resourcing issue
- Kees sees this project as a possible 2.0 version of SBDH and so we might
get resources contributing from the PEPPOL group, which underscores that
having this project in BDXR might make it more palatable for non-UBL
projects to consider using
- Oriol asks the question is this a technical issue or a business issue?
- he thinks this is more a business issue and so should stay in with UBL
- we need an agnostic business envelope independent of the transport layer
- standalone UBL documents are like post cards where addressing
information is self-evident and all information is open
- relevant business processes (encryption, guarantees, confidentiality)
need to be solved by envelopes
- Kenneth is willing to bring the project into the BDXR committee
- BDXR reported during the call that they will take on this project
- accepted that BDXR teleconference time is 16:00UTC every
second Wednesday
- next BDXR meeting is January 21, 2015
UBL TC next steps
- what promotional issues need to be addressed?
- UBL 2 is an organic thing that can be grown
- what do we do for implementation support?
- should we write a companion document of how to use the specification?
- industry-specific documentation?
- make it easier to find what is relevant without changing the actual
specification
- how about a Twitter feed of UBL adoption and announcements?
- what subject matter issues need to be addressed?
- communications with transportation regulatory organizations
- Tim has created create JIRA ticket
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-13
- is there a need for XML equivalents to the container messages?
- http://www.smdg.org/itigg/downloads/
- Tim is already addressing the ITFM** messages, the question
here is about the CO**** messages
- we haven't seen any requests from people wanting XML for containers
TC CONCALL SCHEDULE
Next meetings proposed:
2015-01-14 Pacific 01:00UTC/20:00EDT, Atlantic 15:00UTC/16:00CEST/10:00EDT
2015-01-21 Pacific 01:00UTC/20:00EDT, Atlantic 15:00UTC/16:00CEST/10:00EDT
2015-01-28 Pacific 01:00UTC/20:00EDT, Atlantic 15:00UTC/16:00CEST/10:00EDT
2015-02-04 Pacific 01:00UTC/20:00EDT, Atlantic 15:00UTC/16:00CEST/10:00EDT
2015-02-11 Pacific 01:00UTC/20:00EDT, Atlantic 15:00UTC/16:00CEST/10:00EDT
2015-02-18 Pacific 01:00UTC/20:00EDT, Atlantic 15:00UTC/16:00CEST/10:00EDT
2015-02-25 Pacific 01:00UTC/20:00EDT, Atlantic 15:00UTC/16:00CEST/10:00EDT
2015-03-04 Pacific 01:00UTC/20:00EDT, Atlantic 15:00UTC/16:00CEST/10:00EDT
Will anyone be requesting a leave of absence in the near future? For
privacy reasons, this discussion will be kept off of the minutes.
TC calendar:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/calendar.php?wg_abbrev=ubl
TC calendar iCal subscription link:
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OTHER BUSINESS
Document naming ambiguity
- Kees raises the point that the proposed work product titles are ambiguous
regarding "Version" ... the "Version 1.0" is the work product, but the
word "UBL" at the end may imply to some that we are talking about UBL 1.0
- proposed to change the titles as follows
- UBL Maintenance Governance Procedures Version 1.0
- does not change the abbreviation from: UBL-Governance
- UBL Guidelines for Mapping IFTM UN/EDIFACT Messages Version 1.0
- newly abbreviated as: UBL-IFTM-Mapping
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