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Subject: Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 04 January 2017 15:00UTC

Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 04 January 2017 15:00UTC


  Todd Albers
  Oriol Bausà
  Kenneth Bengtsson
  Erlend Klakegg Bergheim
  Kees Duvekot
  G. Ken Holman (convener)
  Ole Madsen


    - the following should be used as a specific citation:
      OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.1 (ISO/IEC 19845:2015)
    - the following would be used for a general (any version) citation:
      OASIS UBL (ISO/IEC 19845)
    - the canonical documents are available in the OASIS repository:
    - the ISO/IEC catalogue entry is found at:
    - the ISO/IEC document and attachments are found at:


   Additions to events calendar: http://ubl.xml.org/events
    - no new events to add at this time

   Review of Atlantic call minutes

   Membership status review

    - voting status is determined by the following:
      - existing voting members must not miss two consecutive meetings to
        maintain voting status
      - non-voting members must attend two consecutive meetings to obtain
        voting status
      - members formally on leave by prior request must not attend and
        their voting status is not impacted
    - current UBL TC voting member list (alphabetical) and relationships:
      - Oriol Bausà Peris
        - Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML, Editor TC434 Validation
      - Kenneth Bengtsson
        - Chair OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML, DK Expert UN/CEFACT
      - Erlend Klakegg Bergheim
        - Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML Core & MS
        - Member CEN/TC434/WS8
      - Kees Duvekot
        - Member OASIS BDXR
      - G. Ken Holman (Chair OASIS UBL TC)
        - Member OASIS BDXR, CA Member JTC 1/SC32, CA Expert UN/CEFACT
      - Ole Ellerbæk Madsen
        - DK Member CEN/TC440, CEN/TC440 Liaison JTC 1/SC 32
      - Enric Staromiejski Torregrosa
        - Member OASIS ebXML, European Commission liaison (DG GROWTH)
    - members approaching losing voting status after next meeting:
      - Enric Staromiejski Torregrosa
    - members gaining voting status after this meeting:
      - Todd Albers
        - Member ASC X9 AB, Member ISO 20022 Payment SEG, Member W3C Web
          Payments Interest Group
    - active non-voting members
      - Roberto Cisternino
        - IT Expert UN/CEFACT
      - Tim McGrath
      - Audun Vennesland
    - new member orientation information:

UBL 2.2
 - someone is needed to manage requirements for transportation documents
 - Kees managing requirements for post-award documents
 - Ole managing requirements for pre-award documents
 - Roberto managing requirements for party information documents

 - the UBL 2.2 CSPRD01 45-day public review has been requested of TC Admin:


 - can we close these JIRA tickets?

   https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-22 - comment re: tender receipt
   https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-23 - comment re: credit note
   https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-24 - comment re: revision history
   https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-44 - WithholdingTaxAmount

 - note that ticket 44 above was created but never opened and may have fallen
   through the cracks

JSON Task Group
 - intermediate work being tracked in this document:
   - public comment sought in UBL-Dev:
- Python JSON validator jsonvalidate.py updated twice since the first posting:
 - Business Document Naming and Design Rules Version 1.1 (with full JSON
   implementation) first working draft has been posted:
 - Ken is making progress with JSON schema validation:
   - complete JSON schema expressions have been created for the entire UBL 2.2
     library and suite of 81 document types (now created in parallel with the
     XSD artefacts using a revised Crane-gc2obdndr tool)
   - the JSON transliterations of all example UBL instances validate with
     these JSON schema expressions
   - question for committee members: should the JSON schemas be published as a
     non-normative part of the main UBL 2.2 distribution ZIP (the way the
     RELAX-NG schemas were published in UBL 2.1) or should they be published
as a separate Committee Note (the way the ASN.1 schemas were published for
     UBL 2.1)?
     - Ken will create the first draft of a committee note for JSON exchange
       of UBL documents

Business Document Naming and Design Rules Version 1.0
 - the 60-day public review ended 18 December 2016:
 - no comments received:


 - the membership ballot for the OASIS Standard will be opened early
   in the new year because of holidays:


   - during the teleconference OASIS published the membership ballot:


Payments, factoring and supply chain finance
 - there is an interest in these topics in the Americas
 - how can the UBL committee respond to such interests in its deliverables?
 - considerable gap between 20022 and UBL gives us the opportunity to create
   new document types to close the gap
 - consolidation of transactions before connecting with 20022 processes
 - example: Invoice Status Request and Invoice Status Response
 - example: total amount of financing is different than amount on the invoice
 - example: payment settlement
 - business drivers in the Americas are different than in Europe
   - new companies have different ways of providing finance and factoring
     than elsewhere (FinTech) without basing their technology on standards
   - opportunity to create the tools in the UBL suite
- Todd reports that 20022 invoice is no longer being supported (November 2016)
   - opportunity to work more closely with 20022
 - we could create a new subcommittee if this is considered sufficiently
   separate from Post-Award, but Kees is willing to take it on

Outreach and communications
 - the UBL Adoption SC is responsible for the editorial content of the
   http://ubl.xml.org web site
 - Ken also informally has been maintaining the Wikipedia article:
 - what more has to be done on either of these sites?
 - what more has to be done in other ways?
 - Kenneth has volunteered to chair the group with the expectation of help
   of others
 - Todd has volunteered to co-chair with Kenneth
 - Ken will effect the changes in the subcommittee roster (with much
   appreciation to Kenneth and Todd!)
 - committee members wanting to join the Adoption SC discussions should
   sign in to OASIS and join the subcommittee roster

JIRA tickets
   https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=12972 (note that the view can
   be changed using the box icon at top right; the list view provides the most
   summary information, without the detail view obscuring the screen space)

   - when creating tickets, remember to distinguish the following components
     by how they are described to be used as categories:

   - status and resolution values:
     - NEW - the issue has been created but not yet agreed to be in
             consideration or not for the development distribution
           - in order for the issue to become active work for the committee
             the new ticket must be changed to OPEN or it will not be seen
             in the "to do" filter
           - the other option on a new ticket is to change it to DEFERRED
           - please remember to look at the open filter to ensure visibility:
     - DEFERRED - the issue is not in consideration for the development
                - please remember to use this when creating new tickets for
                  backwards-incompatible changes
     - OPEN - the issue is in consideration for the development distribution
            - keep the issue OPEN when assigning to Ken for incorporation
            - please remember to add a comment regarding expectations whenever
              you assign an OPEN ticket to another person for any action
     - RESOLVED + Applied - the issue is incorporated in test but not released
- RESOLVED + Fixed - the issue is incorporated in a released test version;
                          (record which one)
     - RESOLVED + No Action - considered as no action for distribution
     - RESOLVED + Cannot Reproduce - considered as no action for distribution
     - APPLIED - the issue is included in a public review (record which one)
     - see also the discussion on the status workflows here:

   - members please note to discuss ticket issues as comments to the ticket so
     that we can audit the discussion when making decisions about the ticket,
     without having to find the discussion on the main mail list

   - to find all of the OASIS TC Administration tickets related to UBL, use
     the https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=13070 filter


  2017-01-11 Atlantic teleconference 15:00UTC/16:00CET/10:00EST
  2017-01-18 Atlantic teleconference 15:00UTC/16:00CET/10:00EST
  2017-01-25 Atlantic teleconference 15:00UTC/16:00CET/10:00EST

 Next Pacific call meetings:
  CCYY-MM-DD Pacific 02:00UTC/21:00EST - November to March
  CCYY-MM-DD Pacific 01:00UTC/21:00EST - April to October
  - these teleconferences are suspended until warranted by attendance

 Will anyone be requesting a leave of absence in the near future?  For
 privacy reasons, this discussion will be kept off of the minutes.

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