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Subject: Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 15 August 2018 14:00UTC


Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 15 August 2018 14:00UTC

ATTENDANCE

  Todd Albers
  Kenneth Bengtsson
  Erlend Klakegg Bergheim
  Peter Borresen
  Kees Duvekot
  Cécile Guasch
  G. Ken Holman (convener)
  Ole Madsen
  Jan Tore Pedersen

  Regrets received in advance:

   Matt Vickers

  Pacific call attendance

  Kenneth Bengtsson
  G. Ken Holman (convener)
  Matt Lewis
  Andrew Mitchell
  Levine Naidoo


REFERENCING THE SPECIFICATION

       - one of the following should be used as a specific citation:
         OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.2
         OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.1 (ISO/IEC 19845:2015)
       - the following would be used for a general (any version) citation:
         OASIS UBL (ISO/IEC 19845)
       - the canonical 2.2 documents are available in the OASIS repository:
         http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.2/
       - the canonical 2.1 documents are available in the OASIS repository:
         http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.1/
       - the ISO/IEC catalogue entry for UBL 2.1 is found at:
         http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail.htm/?csnumber=66370
       - the ISO/IEC document and attachments for UBL 2.1 are found at:
         http://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards/


STANDING ITEMS

      Additions to events calendar: http://ubl.xml.org/events
       - Digital transformation of public procurement conference
         Lisbon, PT - 2018-10-18
https://ec.europa.eu/growth/content/digital-transformation-public-procurement-conference_en

      Review of Pacific call minutes
         https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201808/msg00008.html

      Review of Atlantic call minutes
         https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201808/msg00002.html

      Membership status review
       https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#membership
       https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=ubl
       https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ubl/members/roster.php?num_items=80

       - voting status is determined by the following:
         - existing voting members must not miss two consecutive meetings to
           maintain voting status
         - non-voting members must attend two consecutive meetings to obtain
           voting status
         - members formally on leave by prior request must not attend and
           their voting status is not impacted
       - current UBL TC voting member list (alphabetical) and relationships:
         - Todd Albers
           - Member ASC X9 AB, Member ISO 20022 Payment SEG, Member W3C Web
             Payments Interest Group, Business Payments Coalition
         - Kenneth Bengtsson
           - Chair OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML, DK Expert UN/CEFACT
         - Erlend Klakegg Bergheim
           - Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML Core & MS
           - Member CEN/TC434/WS8
         - Peter Borresen
           - DK Member CEN/TC440, Assistant Convenor CEN/TC440/WG7
         - Kees Duvekot
           - Member OASIS BDXR, Member of the Standaardisatie­platform
             e-factureren
         - Cécile Guasch
           - Member CEN/TC440, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG1, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG2,
             European Commission liaison (DIGIT Interoperability Unit)
         - G. Ken Holman
           - Member OASIS BDXR, CA Member JTC 1/SC32, CA Expert UN/CEFACT
         - Ole Ellerbæk Madsen
           - DK Member CEN/TC440, CEN/TC440 Liaison JTC 1/SC 32
         - Levine Naidoo
           - Member OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML, Member Fintech Australia
         - Matt Vickers, Xero
           - Member OASIS BDXR, Member US Business Payments Coalition,
             Director US Data Coalition
       - members losing voting status after this meeting:
         - Matt Vickers
       - members gaining voting status after this meeting:
         - Matt Lewis
           - Member Blockchain Association of Australia
         - Andrew Mitchell
       - members approaching gaining voting status after next meeting:
         - Jan Tore Pedersen
       - active non-voting members
         - Martijn van den Boogaard
         - Oriol Bausà Peris
           - Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML, Editor TC434 Validation
         - Enric Staromiejski Torregrosa
           - Member OASIS ebXML, European Commission liaison (DG GROWTH)
         - Roberto Cisternino
           - IT Expert UN/CEFACT
       - new member orientation information:
         https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=59647


UBL 2.2
    - UBL 2.2 OASIS Standard is published:

       http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.2/UBL-2.2.html

    - Ken to begin the ISO revision process for ISO/IEC 19845


UBL 2.3
    - a posting has been made to the mail archives so that it can be cited
      in other correspondence:

      https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201702/msg00006.html

    - Cécile managing requirements for pre-award documents
    - Kees managing requirements for post-award documents
    - Peter managing requirements for transportation documents
- Kenneth and Todd managing requirements for payments and finance documents
    - Roberto managing requirements for party information documents
    - all subcommittee and task group leaders are asked to take on the
      assignment of JIRA tickets from the current list of "Later" tickets,
      and open each one:
        https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=12972
      - use the button "Reject Resolution" in order to re-open the ticket, and
        then "Assign to me" to take on the ticket
      - there should be none left for Ken when this task is done
    - reminder about the calendar for UBL 2.3:
      - working drafts at the end of 2018
      - final OASIS Standard at the end of 2019
      - final ISO Standard at the end of 2020
    - new requirements identified in Europe:
      - pre-award catalogue (from Norway)
      - contract information
    - who is going to take on co-editorship for UBL 2.3 in order to take the
      reins after Ken steps down?


UBL Payments and Finance Subcommittee
    - Peter raises the need for PayFin to consider "Letter of Credit" as a
      new document type in support of transportation insurance quote
      requirements
    - next Atlantic SC call will happen after this meeting


Outreach and communications
    - work progressing on analyzing current communication channels
         https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-adoption/201710/msg00001.html


UBL Transportation Subcommittee
    - new document types discussed at the face-to-face
    - Framework for new document types are being drafted and will be given
      as input for UBL 2.3
    - Transportation Subcommittee is now working on a separate Google
      document for document types and for ABIE
    - interested parties are asked to attend the subcommittee teleconferences
      in August


UBL Small Business Subcommittee
    - nothing to report at this time


UBL Australian Localisation Subcommittee
    - successful first meeting July 25, 2018 (minutes on the SC mail list)


OASIS Business Document Naming and Design Rules
- Ken has prototyped proposed augmented extension mechanism first discussed
      at the Fremantle face-to-face:
      - add an extension point at the beginning of *every* ABIE, not just the
        document ABIEs
      - ticket created to track online discussion:
        https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-174

   - JSON rules in the OASIS Business Document Naming and Design Rules
    - active tickets:  https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=13472
    - the TC continues to invite public comment on the latest versions of
these specifications until such time as we agree to progress the documents
      to their next steps in the process:

http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/Business-Document-NDR/v1.1/Business-Document-NDR-v1.1.html
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/UBL-2.1-JSON/v1.0/UBL-2.1-JSON-v1.0.html

    - awaiting TC Administration feedback regarding:
        https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-comment/201705/msg00000.html
        - ticket created for tracking ... requires OASIS involvement:
          https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/TCADMIN-2587
    - Ken has begun work on the changes but is stalled looking for a JSON
      schema processor for Draft-7 of the json-schema specification


JIRA tickets
    - available filters:
         - UBL 2.x - https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=12972
         - BDNDR   - https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=13472
         - All UBL - https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=11670
         - TCAdmin - https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=13070

     - when creating tickets, remember to distinguish the following components
       by how they are described to be used as categories:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL/?selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:components-panel
- if you leave the "Component/s" field empty, the ticket will not show up
         in the summary filter

     - status and resolution values:
       - NEW - the issue has been created but not yet agreed to be in
               consideration or not for the development distribution
             - in order for the issue to become active work for the committee
               the new ticket must be changed to OPEN or it will not be seen
               in the "to do" filter
             - the other option on a new ticket is to change it to DEFERRED
- please remember to look at the open filter to ensure visibility:
               https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=12972
       - OPEN - the issue is in consideration for the development distribution
              - keep the issue OPEN when assigning to Ken for incorporation
- please remember to add a comment regarding expectations whenever
                you assign an OPEN ticket to another person for any action
- RESOLVED + Applied - the issue is incorporated in test but not released - RESOLVED + Fixed - the issue is incorporated in a working draft version
       - RESOLVED + Later - the issue is still up for discussion for a future
                            minor revision but not the current development
       - RESOLVED + No Action - considered as no action for any distribution
- RESOLVED + Cannot Reproduce - considered as no action for distribution - APPLIED + Fixed - the issue is included in a public review (record the
                           availability of the disposition once review opened)
       - DEFERRED - the issue is not in consideration for any minor revision
                  - please remember to use this when creating new tickets for
                    backwards-incompatible changes
      - see also the discussion on the status workflows here:
         https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201709/msg00000.html

- members please note to discuss ticket issues as comments to the ticket so that we can audit the discussion when making decisions about the ticket,
       without having to find the discussion on the main mail list

     - to find all of the OASIS TC Administration tickets related to UBL, use
       the https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=13070 filter


NEXT FACE-TO-FACE

    - our next face-to-face meeting is in Zwolle, NL from 13:00CEST October 1,
      2018 until 12:00CEST October 5, 2018
      - find a hotel in the centre of Zwolle, and the meetings are held in an
        industrial park not far away:
        - Punterweg 12, 8042 PB Zwolle https://goo.gl/maps/YxRM4FPKVtH2
      - meeting rooms: https://photos.app.goo.gl/8PCBGy86FSu6xcus8
    - note that the following week there is the Exchange Summit conference in
      Berlin, Germany ... see http://www.exchange-summit.com
    - includes a half-day public seminar regarding UBL on Wednesday,
      October 3, 2018 in the afternoon using the UBL International branding
      - http://ublconference.com
      - Ken will update the web site
      - we need speakers and topics to present
    - we need a meeting plan for the week to help attendees plan their
      attendance


SUBCOMMITTEE CONFERENCE CALLS

- Australian Localisation Subcommittee will be meeting in the TC "off weeks"
     at the Pacific call time slot (00:00 UTC)
   - Pre-award Subcommittee will be meeting in the TC "off weeks", Wednesdays
     at 13:00UTC, starting September 5, 2018
   - Small Business Subcommittee will be meeting in the TC "off weeks",
     Wednesdays at 14:00 UTC
   - Transportation Subcommittee will be meeting on Wednesdays every week at
     13:00 UTC (will be using Peter's GotoMeeting facility)


TC CONFERENCE CALL SCHEDULE

2018-08-29 UBL Pacific - 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/10:00Sydney 2018-08-29 UBL Atlantic - 09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe 2018-09-12 UBL Pacific - 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/10:00Sydney 2018-09-12 UBL Atlantic - 09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
  2018-10-01/05 - Face-to-face
2018-10-24 UBL Pacific - 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/11:00Sydney 2018-10-24 UBL Atlantic - 09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

  - given the lengthy breaks between meetings, please remember to use JIRA and
    if we decide we need to meet in addition to the above, it will be set up

  Notes regarding teleconference times:

   - meeting times stable now until October:

     https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201802/msg00000.html

  Will anyone be requesting a leave of absence in the near future?  For
  privacy reasons, this discussion will be kept off of the minutes.

  TC calendar:
  http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/calendar.php?wg_abbrev=ubl

  TC calendar iCal subscription link:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup_feeds/ical/my_vcalendar.ics?token=fa658a7994a6cefb10c10be09e139af3&workgroup_id=50


OTHER BUSINESS

 - none

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