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Subject: Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 24 October 2018 14:00UTC


Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 24 October 2018 14:00UTC

ATTENDANCE

  Todd Albers
  Kenneth Bengtsson
  Peter Borresen
  Kees Duvekot
  Cécile Guasch
  G. Ken Holman (convener)
  Ole Madsen
  Olli Pajari
  Enric Staromiejski Torregrosa
  Matt Vickers

  Pacific call attendance

  Kenneth Bengtsson
  G. Ken Holman (convener)
  Matt Lewis

  Regrets received in advance:

   Todd Albers
   Levine Naidoo


REFERENCING THE SPECIFICATION

       - one of the following should be used as a specific citation:
         OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.2
         OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.1 (ISO/IEC 19845:2015)
       - the following would be used for a general (any version) citation:
         OASIS UBL (ISO/IEC 19845)
       - the canonical 2.2 documents are available in the OASIS repository:
         http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.2/
       - the canonical 2.1 documents are available in the OASIS repository:
         http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.1/
       - the ISO/IEC catalogue entry for UBL 2.1 is found at:
         http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail.htm/?csnumber=66370
       - the ISO/IEC document and attachments for UBL 2.1 are found at:
         http://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards/


STANDING ITEMS

      Additions to events calendar: http://ubl.xml.org/events
       - Exchange Summit Miami - 2019-05-13/15
       - Exchange Summit Vienna - 2019-09-30/10-02
       - Exchange Summit Singapore - late November
       - X12 Seattle - 2019-01-20/24

      Review of Pacific call minutes
         https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201810/msg00004.html

      Review of Atlantic call minutes
         https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201808/msg00017.html

      Membership status review
       https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#membership
       https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=ubl
       https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ubl/members/roster.php?num_items=80

       - voting status is determined by the following:
         - existing voting members must not miss two consecutive meetings to
           maintain voting status
         - non-voting members must attend two consecutive meetings to obtain
           voting status
         - members formally on leave by prior request must not attend and
           their voting status is not impacted
       - current UBL TC voting member list (alphabetical) and relationships:
         - Todd Albers
           - Member ASC X9 AB, Member ISO 20022 Payment SEG, Member W3C Web
             Payments Interest Group, Business Payments Coalition
         - Kenneth Bengtsson
           - Chair OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML, DK Expert UN/CEFACT
         - Erlend Klakegg Bergheim
           - Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML Core & MS
           - Member CEN/TC434/WS8
         - Peter Borresen
           - DK Member CEN/TC440, Assistant Convenor CEN/TC440/WG7
         - Kees Duvekot
           - Member OASIS BDXR, Member of the Standaardisatie­platform
             e-factureren
         - Cécile Guasch
           - Member CEN/TC440, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG1, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG2,
             European Commission liaison (DIGIT Interoperability Unit)
         - G. Ken Holman
           - Member OASIS BDXR, CA Member JTC 1/SC32, CA Expert UN/CEFACT
         - Matt Lewis
           - Member Blockchain Association of Australia
         - Ole Ellerbæk Madsen
           - DK Member CEN/TC440, CEN/TC440 Liaison JTC 1/SC 32
         - Andrew Mitchell
         - Levine Naidoo
           - Member OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML, Member Fintech Australia
       - members gaining voting status after this meeting:
         - Matt Vickers, Xero
           - Member OASIS BDXR, Member US Business Payments Coalition,
             Director US Data Coalition
         - Enric Staromiejski Torregrosa
           - Member OASIS ebXML, European Commission liaison (DG GROWTH)
       - members losing voting status after this meeting:
         - Levine Naidoo
       - members approaching gaining voting status after next meeting:
         - Olli Pajari
       - members approaching losing voting status after next meeting:
         - Erlend Klakegg Bergheim
         - Andrew Mitchell
       - active non-voting members
         - Oriol Bausà Peris
           - Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML, Editor TC434 Validation
         - Martijn van den Boogaard
         - Roberto Cisternino
           - IT Expert UN/CEFACT
         - Steve Ryan
       - new member orientation information:
         https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=59647
       - we welcome our new member: Olli Pajari, Finland


Face-to-face meeting in Zwolle, NL, 2018-10-01/05
    - minutes posted:

         https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201810/msg00002.html

    - if we had a face-to-face in Zwolle 2019-09-23 then attendees could
      continue on to Vienna for the Exchange Summit conference the following
      week (as was convenient for some members in 2018)
      - pencilled in for Zwolle
      - Peter offered to back up the event in Copenhagen if it doesn't work
        in Zwolle
      - Enric is also looking at a host in Portugal
    - do we need a face-to-face in the southern US in February/March? If so,
      who do we know who could host us or sponsor a meeting venue?
      - perhaps co-located with the IBM Think conference San Francisco
        2018-02-12/15? May be too early because of the first public review


UBL 2.2
    - UBL 2.2 OASIS Standard is published:

       http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.2/UBL-2.2.html

    - Ken to begin the ISO revision process for ISO/IEC 19845
    - awaiting feedback from OASIS legal counsel


UBL 2.3
    - a posting has been made to the mail archives so that it can be cited
      in other correspondence:

      https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201702/msg00006.html

    - Cécile managing requirements for pre-award documents
    - Kees managing requirements for post-award documents
    - Peter managing requirements for transportation documents
- Kenneth and Todd managing requirements for payments and finance documents
    - Roberto managing requirements for party information documents
    - Kees designated a co-editor of UBL 2.3 and is now in charge of the
      production of the artefacts, with the assistance from Erlend as needed
    - all subcommittee and task group leaders are asked to take on the
      assignment of JIRA tickets from the current list of "Later" tickets,
      and open each one:
        https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=12972
      - use the button "Reject Resolution" in order to re-open the ticket, and
        then "Assign to me" to take on the ticket
      - there should be none left for Ken when this task is done
    - reminder about the calendar for UBL 2.3:
      - working drafts at the end of 2018
      - final OASIS Standard at the end of 2019
      - final ISO Standard at the end of 2020
    - new requirements identified in Europe:
      - pre-award catalogue (from Norway)
      - contract information
    - all subcommittee chairs please summarize your JIRA tickets to your
      membership and ask them to become watchers of each in order to get
      push notifications ... for example with the ticket number in ###:

        https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-###

    - open issues at: https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=12972


UBL Payments and Finance Subcommittee
    - nothing to report at this time


Outreach and communications
    - in the month of October Ken did a lot of recruiting at public events
      in Berlin and Helsinki


UBL Transportation Subcommittee
    - nothing to report at this time since the face-to-face


UBL Small Business Subcommittee
    - nothing to report at this time since the face-to-face


UBL Australian Localisation Subcommittee
    - work is progressing on mappings


OASIS Business Document Naming and Design Rules
- Ken has prototyped proposed augmented extension mechanism first discussed
      at the Fremantle face-to-face:
      - add an extension point at the beginning of *every* ABIE, not just the
        document ABIEs
      - ticket created to track online discussion:
        https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-174
      - some positive feedback received since our last teleconference:
        http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201808/msg00018.html

   - JSON rules in the OASIS Business Document Naming and Design Rules
    - active tickets:  https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=13472
    - the TC continues to invite public comment on the latest versions of
these specifications until such time as we agree to progress the documents
      to their next steps in the process:

http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/Business-Document-NDR/v1.1/Business-Document-NDR-v1.1.html
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/UBL-2.1-JSON/v1.0/UBL-2.1-JSON-v1.0.html

    - awaiting TC Administration feedback regarding:
        https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-comment/201705/msg00000.html
        - ticket created for tracking ... requires OASIS involvement:
          https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/TCADMIN-2587
    - Ken has begun work on the changes but is stalled looking for a JSON
      schema processor for Draft-7 of the json-schema specification


JIRA tickets
    - available filters:
         - UBL 2.x - https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=12972
         - BDNDR   - https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=13472
         - All UBL - https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=11670
         - TCAdmin - https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=13070

     - when creating tickets, remember to distinguish the following components
       by how they are described to be used as categories:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL/?selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:components-panel
- if you leave the "Component/s" field empty, the ticket will not show up
         in the summary filter

     - status and resolution values:
       - NEW - the issue has been created but not yet agreed to be in
               consideration or not for the development distribution
             - in order for the issue to become active work for the committee
               the new ticket must be changed to OPEN or it will not be seen
               in the "to do" filter
             - the other option on a new ticket is to change it to DEFERRED
- please remember to look at the open filter to ensure visibility:
               https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=12972
       - OPEN - the issue is in consideration for the development distribution
              - keep the issue OPEN when assigning to Ken for incorporation
- please remember to add a comment regarding expectations whenever
                you assign an OPEN ticket to another person for any action
- RESOLVED + Applied - the issue is incorporated in test but not released - RESOLVED + Fixed - the issue is incorporated in a working draft version
       - RESOLVED + Later - the issue is still up for discussion for a future
                            minor revision but not the current development
       - RESOLVED + No Action - considered as no action for any distribution
- RESOLVED + Cannot Reproduce - considered as no action for distribution - APPLIED + Fixed - the issue is included in a public review (record the
                           availability of the disposition once review opened)
       - DEFERRED - the issue is not in consideration for any minor revision
                  - please remember to use this when creating new tickets for
                    backwards-incompatible changes
      - see also the discussion on the status workflows here:
         https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201709/msg00000.html

- members please note to discuss ticket issues as comments to the ticket so that we can audit the discussion when making decisions about the ticket,
       without having to find the discussion on the main mail list

     - to find all of the OASIS TC Administration tickets related to UBL, use
       the https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=13070 filter


SUBCOMMITTEE CONFERENCE CALLS

- Australian Localisation Subcommittee will be meeting in the TC "off weeks"
     at the Pacific call time slot (00:00UTC)
     - please review this in light of our return to weekly TC meetings
     - suggested to meet in the BDXR TC "off weeks" time slot at 01:00UTC
   - Pre-award Subcommittee will be meeting on an as-required basis
   - Small Business Subcommittee will be meeting in the BDXR TC "off weeks",
     Wednesdays at 16:00UTC
   - Transportation Subcommittee will be meeting on Wednesdays every week at
     14:00UTC (will be using Peter's GotoMeeting facility)
   - Payments and Finance Subcommittee will be meeting between the UBL call
     and the BDXR call, for both Pacific and Atlantic calls


TC CONFERENCE CALL SCHEDULE

2018-10-31 UBL Pacific - 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/11:00Sydney 2018-10-31 UBL Atlantic - 10:00MSP/10:00Lima/11:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe 2018-11-07 UBL Pacific - 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney 2018-11-07 UBL Atlantic - 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe 2018-11-14 UBL Pacific - 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney 2018-11-14 UBL Atlantic - 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe 2018-11-21 UBL Pacific - 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney 2018-11-21 UBL Atlantic - 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe 2018-11-28 UBL Pacific - 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney 2018-11-28 UBL Atlantic - 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe 2018-12-05 UBL Pacific - 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney 2018-12-05 UBL Atlantic - 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe 2018-12-12 UBL Pacific - 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney 2018-12-12 UBL Atlantic - 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe 2018-12-19 UBL Pacific - 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney 2018-12-19 UBL Atlantic - 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe 2019-01-09 UBL Pacific - 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney 2019-01-09 UBL Atlantic - 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

  Notes regarding teleconference times:

   - meeting times are going to be juggling around for some members the next
     few weeks:

     https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201802/msg00000.html

  Will anyone be requesting a leave of absence in the near future?  For
  privacy reasons, this discussion will be kept off of the minutes.

  TC calendar:
  http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/calendar.php?wg_abbrev=ubl

  TC calendar iCal subscription link:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup_feeds/ical/my_vcalendar.ics?token=fa658a7994a6cefb10c10be09e139af3&workgroup_id=50


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