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Subject: Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 27 February 2019 15:00UTC
Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 27 February 2019 15:00UTC ATTENDANCE Todd Albers Oriol Bausà Kenneth Bengtsson Peter Borresen Kees Duvekot Carmelo Greco Cécile Guasch G. Ken Holman (convener) Yves Jordan Ole Madsen Natalie Muric Enric Staromiejski Torregrosa Pacific call attendance Kenneth Bengtsson Erlend Klakegg Bergheim G. Ken Holman (convener) Andrew Mitchell Regrets received in advance: Levine Naidoo Matt Vickers REFERENCING THE SPECIFICATION - one of the following should be used as a specific citation: OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.2 OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.1 (ISO/IEC 19845:2015) - the following would be used for a general (any version) citation: OASIS UBL (ISO/IEC 19845) - the canonical 2.2 documents are available in the OASIS repository: http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.2/ - the canonical 2.1 documents are available in the OASIS repository: http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.1/ - the ISO/IEC catalogue entry for UBL 2.1 is found at: http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail.htm/?csnumber=66370 - the ISO/IEC document and attachments for UBL 2.1 are found at: http://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards/ STANDING ITEMS Additions to events calendar: http://ubl.xml.org/events - no new events to add at this time Review of Pacific call minutes https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201902/msg00022.html Review of Atlantic call minutes https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201902/msg00016.html Membership status review https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#membership https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=ubl https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ubl/members/roster.php?num_items=80 - voting status is determined by the following: - existing voting members must not miss two consecutive meetings to maintain voting status - non-voting members must attend two consecutive meetings to obtain voting status - members formally on leave by prior request must not attend and their voting status is not impacted - current UBL TC voting member list (alphabetical) and relationships: - Todd Albers - Member ASC X9 AB, Member ISO 20022 Payment SEG, Member W3C Web Payments Interest Group, Business Payments Coalition - Oriol Bausà Peris - Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML, Editor TC434 Validation - Kenneth Bengtsson - Chair OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML, DK Expert UN/CEFACT - Erlend Klakegg Bergheim - Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML Core & MS - Member CEN/TC434/WS8 - Peter Borresen - DK Member CEN/TC440, Assistant Convenor CEN/TC440/WG7 - Kees Duvekot - Member OASIS BDXR, Member of the Standaardisatieplatform e-factureren - Cécile Guasch - Member CEN/TC440, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG1, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG2, European Commission liaison (DIGIT Interoperability Unit) - G. Ken Holman - Member OASIS BDXR, CA Member JTC 1/SC32, CA Expert UN/CEFACT - Yves Jordan - Andrew Mitchell - Natalie Muric - Levine Naidoo - Member OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML, Member Fintech Australia - Enric Staromiejski Torregrosa - Member OASIS ebXML, European Commission liaison (DG GROWTH) - Matt Vickers - Member OASIS BDXR, Member US Business Payments Coalition, Director US Data Coalition - active non-voting members - Roberto Cisternino - IT Expert UN/CEFACT - Matt Lewis - Member Blockchain Association of Australia - Olli Pajari - Steve Ryan - members approaching gaining voting status after next meeting: - Carmelo Greco - Ole Ellerbæk Madsen - DK Member CEN/TC440, CEN/TC440 Liaison JTC 1/SC 32 - members losing voting status after this meeting: - Matt Vickers - new member orientation information: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=59647 UBL 2.2 - UBL 2.2 OASIS Standard is published: http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.2/UBL-2.2.html - Ken to begin the ISO revision process for ISO/IEC 19845 - waiting again on OASIS legal counsel for feedback from ISO - ASN.1 alternative representations for UBL 2.1 and UBL 2.2 have been published for committee review before being put forward for a vote: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201902/msg00020.html - comments by March 6, voting document on March 13, 2019 UBL 2.3 - Cécile managing requirements for pre-award documents - Kees managing requirements for post-award documents - Peter managing requirements for transportation documents - Kenneth and Todd managing requirements for payments and finance documents - Roberto managing requirements for party information documents - Kees designated a co-editor of UBL 2.3 and is now in charge of the production of the artefacts, with the assistance from Erlend as needed - please progress unaddressed JIRA tickets, especially the ones from UBL 2.2 - remember to become watchers of a ticket in order to get push notifications ... for example with the ticket number in ###: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-### - open issues at: https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=12972 - missed the end-of 2018 deadline, trying now for an end of March vote on a 30-day public review to deal with feedback at the beginning of May - first draft of public review needs to be ready for February 27 - work towards public review vote March 20 (leaves two weeks for TC Admin action and we cannot ask for expedited processing; ready by March 13 would be best) - subcommittee chairs are reminded of the documentation requirements for new UBL documents recorded in these minutes under "Documentation" https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201902/msg00003.html - subcommittee process for forwarding changes to the main committee - subcommittee edits test spreadsheet for test schemas - Ken will make test schemas for the subcommittee - the subcommittee proposes a summary of their changes to the main TC in a mail message, citing your test schemas for reference - at a teleconference the main TC approves the changes - Ken adds the changes to the main spreadsheets and publish new schemas for public review - image submission - a revisable vector form is required (e.g. SVG) - a bit image form is required: - width of 3425 pixels @ 600dpi = 5.7083in/14.5cm = 1712 pixels @ 300dpi UBL Australian Localisation Subcommittee (ALSC) - face-to-face happening next week in Forrest, ACT UBL Payments and Finance Subcommittee (PayFin) - nothing to report at this time UBL Post-award - many issues have been worked on - a number of tickets need more discussion ... see: https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=15172 UBL Pre-award - progress made on a number of issues - changes made in the Pre-award spreadsheet - Ken to incorporate Cécile's comments for reviewers regarding changes - new regular Pre-award call on Wednesdays 14:30-16:00CET - Ken to make a set of test schemas UBL Small Business Subcommittee (SBSC) - nothing to report at this time UBL Transportation Subcommittee (TSC) - progressing well for the deliverables for first public review - Peter notes the importance of working on business processes before creating business documents ... doing so after may require re-work UBL Naming and Design Rules Subcommittee (NDRSC) - nothing to report at this time Request from http://MarkupDeclaration.org - project to promote the use of XML and declarative markup techniques - GitHub repository created: <https://github.com/markupdeclaration/applications>https://github.com/markupdeclaration/applications - requested that someone from the project participate by creating GitHub "issues" for action items:
We want for Balisage 2019 is to have 100 "issues" opened in the "Technology" GitHub repo and 100 "issues" opened in the "Applications" GitHub repo.An "Issue" is not a bug (we are using the GitHub terminology here) :*For technologies: what are technologies that we want to see created or enhanced to extend the convenient and everyday use of declarative markup. https://github.com/markupdeclaration/technologies *For applications: what is a an applications or tutorials that needs to be documented or enhanced to extend the convenient and everyday use of declarative markup - https://github.com/markupdeclaration/applicationsCan I please enlist your help and ask you 1) to open 3 issues 2) to find another 3 friends and ask them also to open 3 issues (and each find 3 friends?)For example, it would be awesome if you opened in the "applications" GitHub repo 3 issues describing each how XML is used in UBL . The first issue could be simply that we need to "create or point to a simply primer of how XML is helping interop Businesses using UBL. The second could be to "create or point to a simply primer" on specific pieces of how XML is helping for example Denmark and the third one could be for example focused on a specific vertical.
JIRA tickets - available filters: - discuss - https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=15172 - UBL 2.x - https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=12972 - BDNDR - https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=13472 - All UBL - https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=11670 - TCAdmin - https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=13070 - when creating tickets, remember to distinguish the following components by how they are described to be used as categories: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL/?selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:components-panel - if you leave the "Component/s" field empty, the ticket will not show up in the summary filter - status and resolution values: - NEW - the issue has been created but not yet agreed to be in consideration or not for the development distribution - in order for the issue to become active work for the committee the new ticket must be changed to OPEN or it will not be seen in the "to do" filter - the other option on a new ticket is to change it to DEFERRED - please remember to look at the open filter to ensure visibility: https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=12972 - OPEN - the issue is in consideration for the development distribution - keep the issue OPEN when assigning to Ken for incorporation - please remember to add a comment regarding expectations whenever you assign an OPEN ticket to another person for any action - RESOLVED + Incomplete - the issue has been decided but not yet in test - RESOLVED + Applied - the issue is incorporated in test but not released - RESOLVED + Fixed - the issue is incorporated in a working draft version - RESOLVED + Later - the issue is still up for discussion for a future minor revision but not the current development - RESOLVED + No Action - considered as no action for any distribution - RESOLVED + Cannot Reproduce - considered as no action for distribution - APPLIED + Fixed - the issue is included in a public review (record the availability of the disposition once review opened) - DEFERRED - the issue is not in consideration for any minor revision - please remember to use this when creating new tickets for backwards-incompatible changes - see also the discussion on the status workflows here: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201709/msg00000.html - members please note to discuss ticket issues as comments to the ticket so that we can audit the discussion when making decisions about the ticket, without having to find the discussion on the main mail list - to find all of the OASIS TC Administration tickets related to UBL, use the https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=13070 filter SUBCOMMITTEE CONFERENCE CALLS - Australian Localisation Subcommittee will be meeting in the BDXR "off weeks" one hour in advance of the UBL Pacific call (00:00UTC) - Transportation Subcommittee will be meeting on Wednesdays every week at 14:00UTC (will be using Peter's GotoMeeting facility) - Pre-award Subcommittee will be meeting on Wednesdays every week at 13:30UTC (will be using Natalie's WebEx facility) - other subcommittees will be meeting on an as-required basis FACE-TO-FACE - if we had a face-to-face the week of 2019-09-23 then attendees could continue on to Vienna for the Exchange Summit conference the following week (as was convenient for some members in 2018) - offers to host from Zwolle (NL), Copenhagen (DK) - do we need a face-to-face in the southern US in February/March? If so, who do we know who could host us or sponsor a meeting venue? - confirmed that we can hold a meeting in San Francisco hosted by Tradeshift, so we have to decide some dates - we cannot decide on a date until we know when the first public review ends, so that we can work on the result at the meeting - if the meeting gets pushed out to April/May then we have another possible host of the US Fed in Minneapolis (possibly May 6-10??) - can we go back to Tradeshift also regarding May 6-10 in San Francisco? - this would be timed after the end of our first review so that we can work on a second review TC CONFERENCE CALL SCHEDULE2019-03-06 UBL Pacific - 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney 2019-03-06 UBL Atlantic - 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe 2019-03-13 UBL Pacific - 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/11:00Sydney 2019-03-13 UBL Atlantic - 10:00MSP/10:00Lima/11:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe 2019-03-20 UBL Pacific - 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/11:00Sydney 2019-03-20 UBL Atlantic - 10:00MSP/10:00Lima/11:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe 2019-03-27 UBL Pacific - 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/11:00Sydney 2019-03-27 UBL Atlantic - 10:00MSP/10:00Lima/11:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe 2019-04-03 UBL Pacific - 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/11:00Sydney 2019-04-03 UBL Atlantic - 09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe 2019-04-10 UBL Pacific - 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/10:00Sydney 2019-04-10 UBL Atlantic - 09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe 2019-04-17 UBL Pacific - 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/10:00Sydney 2019-04-17 UBL Atlantic - 09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe 2019-04-24 UBL Pacific - 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/10:00Sydney 2019-04-24 UBL Atlantic - 09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe 2019-05-01 UBL Pacific - 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/10:00Sydney 2019-05-01 UBL Atlantic - 09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
Outline of teleconference times for 2019: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201812/msg00000.html (Note the date for the Australia time change is indicated incorrectly) Will anyone be requesting a leave of absence in the near future? For privacy reasons, this discussion will be kept off of the minutes. TC calendar: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/calendar.php?wg_abbrev=ubl TC calendar iCal subscription link: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup_feeds/ical/my_vcalendar.ics?token=fa658a7994a6cefb10c10be09e139af3&workgroup_id=50 OTHER BUSINESS - announcements from Australia and New Zealand: http://srr.ministers.treasury.gov.au/media-release/023-2019/ https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/joint-statement-prime-ministers-rt-hon-jacinda-ardern-and-hon-scott-morrison-mp-auckland-22 -- Contact info, blog, articles, etc. http://www.CraneSoftwrights.com/o/ | Check our site for free XML, XSLT, XSL-FO and UBL developer resources | Streaming hands-on XSLT/XPath 2 training class @ US$45 (5 hours free) |